Comment · Wed, March 13, 2013
MDMA Supplementation
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MisterYouAreSoDumb · 205 points
Ok, I did promise that I would make another post regarding supplementation to mitigate MDMA induced neurotoxicity. I have just been putting it off. Since my last post, I have gathered more information regarding my theory about MDA metabolism being the main cause of MDMA's neurotoxic effects. I will try to not get into that in this post, and keep this mostly about supplementation. As seems to be the norm with me, this may be long winded. Obviously everything I put on this list is not necessary. I will be placing supplements into different categories, with reasonings and references. I will let you decide which ones will be a part of your regimen.
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Essential Supplements:
* Alpha Lipoic Acid- This is one that everyone should be taking. It is a powerful antioxidant that scavenges reactive oxygen and nitrogen species. It also has a nice benefit of regenerating other vitamins, like C, after redox cycling. It exists in two enantiomers, R-ALA and S-ALA. R-ALA is the biologically active isomer that we are looking for. Most supplements a…
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AskQGetA · 1 points
There's a chance something might happen this weekend, but if it does, it'll be a spur of the moment thing. It's why I'm looking into quercetin; it allows me to compress half a litre of grapefruit juice into a single capsule that I can hand out an hour in advance. That is, provided it doesn't influence the roll the way you suspect. Did your friends feel the same way about the quercetin?
Also, considering you and I drink lots of GFJ leading up to the roll anyway, wouldn't that cause the same symptoms? Perhaps the racetams were the culprit...
u/MisterYouAreSoDumb
It was either the racetams or the quercetin. The GFJ does not have any MAO-A inhibition, so it's not the cause. Plus GFJ is widely known to potentiate MDMA. Quercetin is not used by many people, but neither are racetams. I'd be more of a guinea pig, but I don't want to roll until it's the right time. I'm leaning toward the racetams, but I don't want to steer people in the wrong direction. That is why I left quercetin off my supplement list, until I know for sure. I'd say if you are going to try it, only you do it. All the other antioxidants are going to protect your friends anyway. If you want to test it out, just limit the quercetin doses to yourself.