Comment · Tue, April 9, 2013
MDMA Supplementation
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MisterYouAreSoDumb · 205 points
Ok, I did promise that I would make another post regarding supplementation to mitigate MDMA induced neurotoxicity. I have just been putting it off. Since my last post, I have gathered more information regarding my theory about MDA metabolism being the main cause of MDMA's neurotoxic effects. I will try to not get into that in this post, and keep this mostly about supplementation. As seems to be the norm with me, this may be long winded. Obviously everything I put on this list is not necessary. I will be placing supplements into different categories, with reasonings and references. I will let you decide which ones will be a part of your regimen.
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Essential Supplements:
* Alpha Lipoic Acid- This is one that everyone should be taking. It is a powerful antioxidant that scavenges reactive oxygen and nitrogen species. It also has a nice benefit of regenerating other vitamins, like C, after redox cycling. It exists in two enantiomers, R-ALA and S-ALA. R-ALA is the biologically active isomer that we are looking for. Most supplements a…
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disposatron · 1 points
What's the conclusion on acetylcysteine then? Will it increase the conjugated HHA then, or will it do more good than harm?
u/MisterYouAreSoDumb
I am not 100% certain either way. It has the possibility of increasing the toxic metabolites, but it also has the possibility of negating them. I do not think it is a necessary supplement unless you are taking another substance that is super hard on the liver. So for now, I would leave it out. I only take it for nights when I am drinking a lot, since it drastically reduces liver damage from alcohol. However, vitamin C works perfectly well to protect the liver from MDMA induced toxicity.
Antioxidants I use with MDMA are:
* na-R-ALA
* ALCAR
* Grape Seed Extract (Vitamin E & polyphenols)
* Vitamin C
If you are going out and getting drunk, then NAC is something you should take.
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Take a look at this study, though. It showed that NAC was neuroprotective when administered with MDMA. Jury is still out for me.
http://bcn.tums.ac.ir/browse.php?a_id=198&slc_lang=en&sid=1&ftxt=1