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Comment · Wed, March 13, 2013

MDMA Supplementation

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MisterYouAreSoDumb · 205 points

Ok, I did promise that I would make another post regarding supplementation to mitigate MDMA induced neurotoxicity. I have just been putting it off. Since my last post, I have gathered more information regarding my theory about MDA metabolism being the main cause of MDMA's neurotoxic effects. I will try to not get into that in this post, and keep this mostly about supplementation. As seems to be the norm with me, this may be long winded. Obviously everything I put on this list is not necessary. I will be placing supplements into different categories, with reasonings and references. I will let you decide which ones will be a part of your regimen.

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Essential Supplements:

* Alpha Lipoic Acid- This is one that everyone should be taking. It is a powerful antioxidant that scavenges reactive oxygen and nitrogen species. It also has a nice benefit of regenerating other vitamins, like C, after redox cycling. It exists in two enantiomers, R-ALA and S-ALA. R-ALA is the biologically active isomer that we are looking for. Most supplements a…

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AskQGetA · 1 points

I don't understand. Grapefruit juice contains quercetin, yet it has no MAO-A inhibition?

I can't order any cheap quercetin by this weekend. The experiment will have to wait until next month. :-)

u/MisterYouAreSoDumb

The mechanism for GFJ inhibition of CYP3A4 is not due to quercetin, as the levels are low. The main cause of GFJ induced inhibition is a furanocoumarin called 6',7'-dihydroxybergamottin, where it actually degrades the CYP3A4 enzyme, rather than binding to it. GFJ does not possess any significant MAO inhibition, to my knowledge. The quercetin amounts are too low to make a meaningful difference like a dedicated supplement.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9351897

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