Comment · Thu, April 4, 2013
MDMA Supplementation
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MisterYouAreSoDumb · 205 points
Ok, I did promise that I would make another post regarding supplementation to mitigate MDMA induced neurotoxicity. I have just been putting it off. Since my last post, I have gathered more information regarding my theory about MDA metabolism being the main cause of MDMA's neurotoxic effects. I will try to not get into that in this post, and keep this mostly about supplementation. As seems to be the norm with me, this may be long winded. Obviously everything I put on this list is not necessary. I will be placing supplements into different categories, with reasonings and references. I will let you decide which ones will be a part of your regimen.
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Essential Supplements:
* Alpha Lipoic Acid- This is one that everyone should be taking. It is a powerful antioxidant that scavenges reactive oxygen and nitrogen species. It also has a nice benefit of regenerating other vitamins, like C, after redox cycling. It exists in two enantiomers, R-ALA and S-ALA. R-ALA is the biologically active isomer that we are looking for. Most supplements a…
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KillYourHeroesJesus · 1 points
I know I'm late to the party, but I had a quick question if you could answer, MisterYouAreSoDumb. When it comes to MDA, obviously we should exercise the same caution as with MDMA (actually, probably more), but what about supplementing grapefruit juice? Since you've deduced MDA metabolites are a primary culprit in MDMA neurotoxicity, what would drinking grapefruit juice when taking straight MDA be like? Would that essentially kill the roll almost entirely? Thanks for your time!
u/MisterYouAreSoDumb
It would do nothing. MDA is not metabolized by CYP3A4. You could try taking a CYP2D6 inhibitor. Since you are already taking MDA, there would be no risk. You might have to lower your dosage, though. Fluoxetine is a strong CYP2D6 inhibitor, and will block your SERT. If I were going to take MDA I would seriously look into having Prozac 4-5 hours after your drop.
Other than that, load up on antioxidants and keep your body temperature down.