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Comment · Sun, July 19, 2020 · ND Owner

Immune Defense & positive blood test results

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solothesensei · 10 points

Hi ND team and u/misteryouaresodumb, a few months ago I started taking ND's Immune Defense. I also took two blood tests near the start and end of the bottle.

Interestingly, the scores on my WBC differential count improved quite significantly, especially with respect to lymphocytes (went from 2.5x10\^9 to 3.6x10\^9 per liter). I understand these include the NK cells, T cells and B cells.

This seems positive but can immunity be actually quantified by these numbers on a blood test? In any case, you guys are doing amazing work. Thank you for all that you do.

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sirsadalot · 2 points

I look at the time before I pass out. I usually get a 6, 7 hours. But I'm naturally an insomniac, regardless to drugs and regardless to lifestyle, so this is the best I could hope for. Throughout my life I've typically gotten far less sleep, averaging 3-4 hours. So I'm doing my best. It just so happens that kratom made my sleep statistically even worse for the duration of my use.

u/MisterYouAreSoDumb · ND Owner

I would suggest getting an Oura ring. I thought I got good sleep too, until I got an Oura ring and saw the data. Now I can actually supplement to improve my deep sleep, which I was only getting 15-30min of a night.

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