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Comment · Wed, August 10, 2022 · ND Owner

Nootopia's "Omnipept"

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DisturbedBurger · 2 points

Empirical consensus suggests these are the premier nootropic stacks of the market (worth it or not is another discussion). Considering every other constituent of their products are more familiar, I think it's safe to attribute the effectiveness of their products to so called "omnipept".
Does anybody know anything about this? I'd be delighted if MYASD and his crew studied these omnipept compounds (there's many of them) and could elucidate a mechanism of action or at least identify a molecule.

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u/MisterYouAreSoDumb · ND Owner

Empirical consensus? You mean their constant advertising and shilling?!? They only popped up as a brand last year, and have been heavily advertising things. If anyone here is even remotely considering buying a product that doesn't tell you what the actual ingredients are, my message has been completely lost. They seem to be hiding racetams in there and mixing them with plant extracts, then lying to people about it. They said one of the dumbest things I have ever read in my life about what they are.

Most racetams (the most popular class of traditional Nootropics) are a byproduct of specific amino acids. Pyroglutamic Acid is one. GABA is another.
During the conversion process from amino acid to racetam, we found you could modify the target molecule by inserting an extract (like Celastrus Paniculatus. Or Ashwagandha) and the resulting nootropic would have unique characteristics that leveraged the best of both the racetam and the herb/seed. Often making the new compound even more Bioavailable.

That was their response to someone who asked what they were. Most racetams are not "converted from an amino acid..." They are synthesized through a number of synthetic routes. None of them are simple one step conversions from any amino acid! Moreover, you can't just "insert an extract" into the synthesis of a racetam and make a new frankenracetam plant hybrid. The idea you can is ludicrous! Anyone with even an elementary understanding of chemistry would know you can't shove a complex plant extract into a chemical synthesis and create a hybrid molecule. It's asinine!

So what is actually happening? I bet they are mixing racetams in with extracts and giving them a name. That's illegal. It not only violates FDA guidelines, but also FTC ones as well. You can't just mix things together and give them a proprietary name, then use that name on the label. This is especially true for synthetic molecules being put into a natural supplement to hide their true identity. The product itself is misbranded, and the act of doing so is literally a conspiracy to defraud. Not only is this illegal, it is morally wrong and putting consumers' health at risk. This is everything I have been trying to fight in this industry for the past ten years! Moreover, where is the lab testing? They don't even disclose what the ingredients are, so how can they show you lab data proving they are real and pure? These are the same people that have been selling Real NZT-48 on Amazon and Ebay for years, which was a concoction of a bunch of shit with a ton of racetams all mixed together. I guess the people from BiOptimizers partnered with them to create this Nootopia company. The company behind it is WebNutrients. On the guy's Instagram he talks about using kratom in some of his stacks. These guys are going to get sued out of business, or they are going to get shut down by the FDA. Concealing synthetic compounds in your natural supplement products, then marketing them to help treat diseases like anxiety, is about as over the line as you can get.

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