Comment · Sun, July 19, 2020 · ND Owner
Immune Defense & positive blood test results
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solothesensei · 10 points
Hi ND team and u/misteryouaresodumb, a few months ago I started taking ND's Immune Defense. I also took two blood tests near the start and end of the bottle.
Interestingly, the scores on my WBC differential count improved quite significantly, especially with respect to lymphocytes (went from 2.5x10\^9 to 3.6x10\^9 per liter). I understand these include the NK cells, T cells and B cells.
This seems positive but can immunity be actually quantified by these numbers on a blood test? In any case, you guys are doing amazing work. Thank you for all that you do.
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sirsadalot · 1 points
Sucks to hear that you have to resort to using kratom. I'm not gonna lie, I'm a little disappointed about that. Have you ever tried bromantane, or other things for dopamine synthesis?
My current theory is that motivational problems could be solved without addiction or withdrawals with something that enhances the brain's dopamine synthesis, and something that upregulates dopamine receptors. I have bromantane coming but I've yet to try it. Hopefully I get to the bottom of this.
I feel sorry for you kind of, because after having been destroyed by kratom and being dependent on it, the blind optimism and dopamine downregulating comes with a ton of negative implications that are just waiting for a bad opportunity to arise. I don't wish what happened to me on anyone, and that's why I strongly advocate for nootropic use over addictive drugs.
Also, have you tried california poppy + agmatine sulfate + ibuprofen for pain? If you ever do quit kratom, this might be a more helpful alternative. I know agmatine already earned a spot in your stack.
I'm not trying to take a high horse stance here, I just want to know your take really. Because I'm sure you know just about every nootropic that was ever created. So to see you use kratom... I'm not gonna lie it's confusing, even though I know what benefits you're using it for, and why.
u/MisterYouAreSoDumb · ND Owner
It is what it is. The oxycodone after my shoulder surgery is the real culprit in all this. That's what led to the changes in my brain, and I have been dealing with that ever since. I have gone off kratom completely a few times without issue, though. Now it is more a choice to operate at a high level without having a complete mental breakdown. As time goes on, and I get things more and more stable, I will cycle off again. It's hard for people that have never been in a position like I am to fully understand the pressure and mental energy it takes day after day. Doing it without any help pharmacologically is just not possible.
I have tried pretty much anything you can think of, and many things you have not even heard of. There is a very real possibility that I have tried more things than 99.9% of other people out there. I've even developed my own molecules and tried them myself. You may not have been around in the Ceretropic days, but I created a lot. We were the first to bring out bromantane solutions. That was a tough one to crack from a solubility standpoint. I created phenylpiracetam hydrazide, and named it that. I gave Hydrafinil its name. We were the first to do the modified peptides, and I coined the term amidate for peptides that had an amide grouping capping the C-terminus. We were the first to bring out P21 and tianeptine sulfate. There is shit we did that I never even told anyone about. I have a modafinil derivative in my office that is 10X better than it. It's so much better. I've tried it, and a couple of my employees, but that's it. I never told anyone what it was or publicly released any info on it. It's just in a bag in my desk. I have novel peptides at our facility that we developed from scratch. There are peptides that I created that I am the only human alive to have tried. So to say I have tried a lot is an understatement.
Kratom is a very useful substance when used properly. Like anything else, it can be used improperly. We should not demonize substances themselves because some people don't properly use them. Tianeptine is a fantastic substance for many people. However, morons went nuts with it and ruined it for the responsible people. That's not tianeptine's fault, though. When used properly, it can be a miracle for some people.