Comment · Sat, July 25, 2020 · ND Owner
Immune Defense & positive blood test results
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solothesensei · 10 points
Hi ND team and u/misteryouaresodumb, a few months ago I started taking ND's Immune Defense. I also took two blood tests near the start and end of the bottle.
Interestingly, the scores on my WBC differential count improved quite significantly, especially with respect to lymphocytes (went from 2.5x10\^9 to 3.6x10\^9 per liter). I understand these include the NK cells, T cells and B cells.
This seems positive but can immunity be actually quantified by these numbers on a blood test? In any case, you guys are doing amazing work. Thank you for all that you do.
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TheGermanGuy21 · 1 points
and other brands popped up to just copy everything we did and steal our customers.
If it's your own creation, can't you just patent and license the molecule? I bet the US military would love your modafinil derivate.
u/MisterYouAreSoDumb · ND Owner
Yes, but we were too small back then, and I had never patented anything before. I also wanted to just release things for people to try. It was a fun time in cutting edge nootropics! Also, just because you have a patent, it doesn't end there. You have to defend the patent. I have a friend that owns a patent in a completely different industry. It was a totally new way to solve a problem in the events/conventions industry. They currently have like 20 companies violating it, and have been trying to get them to stop or pay licensing fees for years now. One of the companies does billions a year in revenue violating that patent. They basically told him to fuck off, and sue them if he wants. They even feigned interest in buying the patent from him, strung him along for a while, then ghosted him and told him to just sue them. Suing them is going to cost $100K to $500K, depending on how ugly it gets. So you need to be prepared to defend your patent, and that takes not just a lot of money, but a lot of will and understanding of the legal system.
Now we are in a place where I can properly do that. I am dealing with legal fights all the time these days, and have been on both sides of the legal coin many times now. So I understand the patent and legal systems now, and I have the funding and legal backing to actually defend things. I was a bit naive when I started Ceretropic. I was an idealist. I didn't want to have teams of lawyers or fight people, and I naively hoped that we would not have to deal with lawsuits and our broken legal system. I was wrong. I understand that now, and have fully come around to the idea that I have to play the game by the rules that exist if I ever want to affect positive change. Naive idealism only works for so long. Eventually you have to come back to reality, and the reality in the US is that you need to use the legal system to defend yourself or you are just going to get stomped on. I mean, look at how Amazon "invests" into companies so they can steal their intellectual property and make a competing company to steal all their business. This is happening every day.
So I am much more protective of our intellectual property these days. I have to be.