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Comment · Sat, March 5, 2022 · ND Owner

Reason for the decrease in Cistanche Acteosides?

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Tyler_too_cold · 14 points

I still have a jar of Cistanche 50% echinacoside and 15% acteoside. I noticed on the website that the acteoside content has decreased to 10%. Any reason for that? I take 400mg after my 3 eggs and 2 TBSP of coconut oil and I get a clean androgenic and energized feeling. I’m guessing the 5% decrease won’t do much but still curious behind why it was lowered. Thanks.

Edit: Same extract. Just more accurate numbers.

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Tyler_too_cold · 11 points

Wow. Once again you and your company prevail again. Showing out and improving the industry bit by bit. I know it’s very difficult to have such precision and accuracy and I wish I could perceive even a piece of what you guys go through but my perception is not that large because I don’t have the experience and studies in such high level chemistry and lab methods that you guys are performing. Hats off to you guys 🎩.

u/MisterYouAreSoDumb · ND Owner

I am glad our efforts are appreciated, because it is not easy. I just had our yearly lab recap meeting, which is part of maintaining our ISO certification, so I looked at the data for the last year. We spent $60,000 just on reference standards last year. We tested 1,113 samples in that period. We had 338 non-QC sample submission forms submitted in 2021. Those are non-QC, so that means outside of testing our normal products. This would be R&D, basically. Testing new products we are considering selling, testing competitor's product that we think is bad, testing new samples for NIST proficiency or for regulatory requirements, etc. We have also created our own reference standards now, and will be eventually getting our ISO 17034 certification as a reference standard manufacturer. We should be getting our DEA licensing sometime this year, too. Right now we are part of the NIST proficiency program, and that is currently doing all the cannabinoids in hemp/marijuana. We have already completed our methods for all the cannabinoids, and are going to be using that for the DEA licensing piece. We already completed the ginger NIST proficiency testing, so we should get those results soon. I am curious to see how we stack up against all the other labs in the program! Ohh, and we are working with the moderators of /r/kratom to provide testing for that industry, as it sorely needs it. We have a lot going on!

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