Comment · Mon, September 2, 2013
MDMA Supplementation
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MisterYouAreSoDumb · 205 points
Ok, I did promise that I would make another post regarding supplementation to mitigate MDMA induced neurotoxicity. I have just been putting it off. Since my last post, I have gathered more information regarding my theory about MDA metabolism being the main cause of MDMA's neurotoxic effects. I will try to not get into that in this post, and keep this mostly about supplementation. As seems to be the norm with me, this may be long winded. Obviously everything I put on this list is not necessary. I will be placing supplements into different categories, with reasonings and references. I will let you decide which ones will be a part of your regimen.
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Essential Supplements:
* Alpha Lipoic Acid- This is one that everyone should be taking. It is a powerful antioxidant that scavenges reactive oxygen and nitrogen species. It also has a nice benefit of regenerating other vitamins, like C, after redox cycling. It exists in two enantiomers, R-ALA and S-ALA. R-ALA is the biologically active isomer that we are looking for. Most supplements a…
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ADrugUser · 1 points
Ah. Cool! I'm looking forward to your report on how well piperine works for you over the weekend! Hopefully it goes well so I can add it into my regime. :)
I added this proprietary milk thistle extract into my regime, however I'm unsure as to how well it'll actually inhibit CYP3A4. :P http://www.iherb.com/MRM-Silymarin-With-BioSorb-Milk-Thistle-Extract-60-Veggie-Caps/4650
u/MisterYouAreSoDumb
Hey, I did the piperine thing this weekend. I am not sure what happened, but it must have blocked an absorption pathway. It took over 2 hours for my MDMA to hit on an empty stomach, then only lasted 2 hours or so. I have no idea what could have been the cause, as MDMA does not use the P-glycoprotein pathway that piperine inhibits. At least studies have shown it does not. However, it did something...
Perhaps it was another interaction, but something changed the absorption of the MDMA. The only other new things I added were taurine and L-arginine for vasoconstriction, and SAMe earlier in the morning. Those should not interact. It had to be the piperine.