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Comment · Mon, October 18, 2021 · ND Owner

Why is EVERY lions mane brand Chinese

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callitblues · 1 points

Excuse me if I am being rude. I believe the health of the Nootropics community really matters to you. But there is a big elephant at our scene waiting to be exposed: Check about "IdeaLabs" products. I PM'd you earlier this year about testing their products. The owner goes by the username "haidut" (mainly active on the silly ray peat forum) and claims to sell precursors to hormones (such as Allopregnanolone, etc)

He seem to be an otherwise bright person and well informed scientifically. When he was asked about testing his products he claimed to test the products via Sigma Aldrich yet provided no COA.

So why he's a great interest to the community?

Lots of their products are really attractive to the community and thus people buy and consume it (even though it sold as 'for research only')

He shows some good scientific basis. But I don't believe him. If I had the resources I'd do it myself but unfortunately I don't have a lab nor enough knowledge in this area. Now I know this isn't a typical supplements corporate but I think it deserves some attention because he possibly puts a lot of naive people's health at risk.

Here's a thread on one of his products:

https://raypeatforum.com/community/threads/allop-liquid-allopregnanolone-for-lab-r-d.41055/

This is just one of them. They have…

u/MisterYouAreSoDumb · ND Owner

Yeah, didn't we talk about this via PM? Sigma Aldrich doesn't do QC lab testing. They sell reference standards, but they are not a QC lab. I was saying there is zero way they are doing proper testing or quality control procedures. That's the norm, unfortunately. Lots of brands out there are putting people's health at risk. You might as well just default to assuming any brand you bring up is not testing properly. The ones doing it properly are so rare. It doesn't matter how long they have been in business.

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