Comment · Fri, October 15, 2021 · ND Owner
Why is EVERY lions mane brand Chinese
What they were answering
odder_sea · 3 points
I wish I could Upvote this more than once.
I'm now curious about what products have failed from LE, Jarrow and NOW. I Remember you posting about NOW's tongkat being devoid of actives, have you found contaminants in these brands too?
Do you have anywhere that these results can be viewed, or are they kept below decks to avoid litigation with the companies in question?
What's your view on the places like labdoor and consumerlabs?
u/MisterYouAreSoDumb · ND Owner
I have to be careful to avoid litigation. My team didn't even wanting me mentioning people by name, but the facts are the facts. Their stuff failed our testing... It just is what it is.
Labdoor is an affiliate marketing site masquerading as an independent testing site. They use flawed methodologies to give misleading data and profit off people clicking on their affiliate links to buy products. They had a completely FAKE Panax ginseng as their highest value rating product for OVER A YEAR after I showed them data proving it was fake. It was American ginseng cut with corn starch, and I provided them the data on it when they put up their ginseng ratings. It took them a whole year to even mention there was an issue, then they quietly just put a small note on the page saying the results were under investigation. They made affiliate commissions that whole time as everyone bought the fake Panax ginseng by clicking on the links on their rating page... It's not just like it was an innocent mistake. I called them out publicly over it, and we discussed it privately vi PM here on Reddit. They could have removed that product page when I alerted them, but it stayed up. Just insane to me.
Consumerlab is a lot better in my experience. They seem to actually be trying to find the truth on products. I disagree with some of their metrics/methodologies, but those are minor in comparison.