Comment · Sat, May 8, 2021 · Natrium Health & Nootropics Depot
Inflamed Liver from Nootropics
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JJFlash120 · 261 points
I'm a 50 year old male, in decent shape, slightly elevated cholesterol but no other major health issues, rarely drink, no recreational drug use. I recently became interested in Nootropics to combat anxiety, stress, and fatigue. Being a Lawyer I need every edge I can get in the day to day. So I read the Nootropic Blogs, watched dozens of videos and read hundreds of pages on this Reddit Feed. Having done the research I started taking the following (all of which I bought at Nootropics Depot). My first week I started taking Lion's Mane then introduced each Noot 1 by 1 every couple of days, then finally taking the following Stack over 3 weeks:
Lions Mane 500 mg - 1x/dayCDP Citicholine 250 mg - 1x/dayL-Theanine 200mg - 1x/dayRhodolea Rosea 500mg - 1x/dayOxiracetam 750mg - 1x/dayNoopept 10mg (caused brain fog after 3 days / discontinued)Fish Oil (daily)L-Tyrosine 500mg (caused brain fog after 2 days / discontinued)
At around the 3 week mark, I developed pain and burning on my lower right side/flank which radiated into my back, and my belly and side became swollen. Found myself urinating every hour. Went to my Doc right away. He did blood work which showed increase liver enzymes. He the…
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FW900 · 3 points
Ah, I neglected to read where he purchased it from and wrongly assumed he bought them from a variety of sources on Amazon. In this case, there shouldn't be any concerns, and precisely the reason why I have and always will purchase 90% of my non-peptide supplements/nootropics from ND. Now, I would be more worried what his "regular vitamin supplements" consist of and look to one of them for as the possible cause for LFT elevation. Especially considering enzyme elevation is more a consequence of chronicity of administration than a sudden development.
u/MisterYouAreSoDumb · Natrium Health & Nootropics Depot
Perhaps it's the skeptic in me, or perhaps it's the experience I have had the last decade with shady shit, but I am not convinced this post is even a legitimate experience. Brand new 17 day old account with no other history other than this claim. I really do hate jumping to that conclusion. It makes me seem like an ass. However, I am just so on guard these days with how many times we have been attacked over the years.
If it is legitimate, I would look at the diet and alcohol consumption. I know many people that claim they don't drink much, but then I see what they think is "not much" and realize they have no idea they are overdoing it. You are not getting an enlarged liver from 3 weeks of basic supplements like those. That sounds more like a chronic issue that has been building. You can get acute toxicity pretty quickly with some things, like high dose acetaminophen or it combined with alcohol, but acute liver issues are pretty rare. I have been surprised at how few people realize the risk from acetaminophen is on the liver. Most people don't realize they can destroy their liver very quickly just with a little too much acetaminophen and alcohol. 60,000 people every year are admitted to the hospital due to acetaminophen-induced liver damage, and SEVERAL HUNDRED people die from it every year. Hundreds dead every single year! If there was a supplement on the market where hundreds of people were dying every year from it destroying their liver, it would be pulled from the market so fast... Yet anyone can go buy a bottle of acetaminophen and down it without much warning. It's crazy to me. Anyway, there is no way to know anything from what the OP provided. We'd need to see the blood test results and ultrasound report. Then we would need to know diet, alcohol consumption, lifestyle details, and specifically anything else he was on or takes regularly.