Epicor or Immune Defence?

Comment · Fri, December 27, 2019 · 11 pts

Immune Defense is in a whole other world compared to Epicor. It's night and day. Epicor taken daily will reduce the amount you get sick, or eliminate it for people with good immune systems. However, Immune Defense will s

Comment · Fri, December 27, 2019 · 3 pts

It at least doesn't adversely affect it. I always use cetirizine. I have not recently tried to substitute that for something else, as every time I try to, I regret it.

Comment · Sun, December 29, 2019 · 3 pts

I started with VSL#3 and eventually moved to Visbiome when they changed the formula. Visbiome is the original VSL#3 formula. I also used them for 6 months straight to really get them to take hold. I only use them on occa

Comment · Sun, December 29, 2019 · 1 pts

My pleasure! Let me know how you respond!

Comment · Sun, December 29, 2019 · 5 pts

Visbiome is what I would suggest. That's the original formulation of VSL#3. VSL lost the rights to the formula in a patent dispute a couple years back. We will eventually come out with a probiotic, but we want to do it

Comment · Thu, January 2, 2020 · 2 pts

Yes, we are working out the specifics of running trials. The main issue with Immune Defense specifically is that influenza is a disease. If we run a trial and show improvements, we technically can't post it or talk about

Comment · Fri, January 3, 2020 · 3 pts

Not formal clinical trials, but informal ones using Oura and now Dreem 2. Formal ones are definitely something we are looking into, but we are talking LOTS of money to run a full clinical sleep trial. We are working with

Comment · Fri, January 3, 2020 · 3 pts

How would anyone know it exists if we don't link it? Clinical trials are VERY expensive. We're talking probably $100,000 for one dealing with the flu. To justify that cost, we would have to be able to market the results

Comment · Sat, January 4, 2020 · 6 pts

There's zero way it ever gets OTC approval in the US. Approval of new drugs in the United States costs BILLIONS of dollars. Getting a new OTC monograph approved is not easy, and getting one with 8 different ingredients i

Comment · Sun, January 5, 2020 · 5 pts

I did! I have been using the Dreem 2 alongside my Oura ring for the last month. No sound function, as that is disabled in the US region; probably due to FDA regulations. I am going to do a more formal write up and compar

Comment · Sun, January 5, 2020 · 2 pts

Oura ring is just a ring. So you never notice it. Dreem I would not say is uncomfortable, but it is a large headband you need to put on and take off every night/morning. Oura wins on comfort just because it is a simple r

Comment · Mon, January 6, 2020 · 1 pts

I somewhat agree with him in theory. Most probiotics are junk, and you are never going to be able to get the biodiversity you need into a pill. That's why fecal transplants are a thing. However, if you completely destroy

Comment · Tue, January 7, 2020 · 3 pts

It's absolutely something that has helped me evaluate things and see hard data. I thought I slept fairly well till I got Oura. Just because I fall asleep fast and don't remember waking up doesn't mean I am actually getti

Comment · Wed, January 8, 2020 · 3 pts

Not that I have found yet, no. This is all pretty new from a home-based consumer perspective.

Comment · Mon, January 20, 2020 · 3 pts

We would still need to fund those trials, and our sales from distributors outside the US are a tiny fraction of our total. The only way to be able to justify the cost would be to be able to use the data in US marketing.

Comment · Thu, January 23, 2020 · 1 pts

Nope. Any statements made on anything we link to are considered our marketing statements by the FDA. It's insane. This is why we don't cite studies or link things on our site anymore. The FDA's interpretation of the law

Comment · Tue, January 28, 2020 · 1 pts

Ohh, that's cool! Thanks for the tip!

Comment · Tue, January 28, 2020 · 1 pts

I take our yeast extract every day with Microzinc, vitamin D3, vitamin K2, and Reacta-C. Then I take Immune Defense on days when I need extra, if I am around sick people, or if I feel like I might be coming down with som

Comment · Wed, January 29, 2020 · 2 pts

I just alternate between our yeast extract and Epicor now, and take Visbiome when I need it. Long term I would say Udo's Choice Super 8 for daily use. That's a good everyday one.

Comment · Wed, January 29, 2020 · 1 pts

My pleasure!

Comment · Sat, March 28, 2020 · 1 pts

Yes, absolutely.