Comment · Fri, December 27, 2019
Epicor or Immune Defence?
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yehyehwut · 5 points
Anyone tried either or both?
ID seems very comprehensive but does cost double Epicor.
I do not get sick often (once a year until recently) but I'm finding I can less afford to get sick, people around me get sick a lot which has been getting me sick lately and maybe I am getting hit harder as I get older.
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u/MisterYouAreSoDumb
Immune Defense is in a whole other world compared to Epicor. It's night and day. Epicor taken daily will reduce the amount you get sick, or eliminate it for people with good immune systems. However, Immune Defense will steamroll a sickness. If you get sick, Epicor won't do a whole lot to fight it. It's mainly a prophylactic. It strengthens the defense systems in your mucous membranes, which prevents most pathogens from getting through. However, once they are through you need a more comprehensive approach.
I was actually worried about Immune Defense. We worked on it for years, but improving immune function is not a simple task. So I was worried it would not live up to our standards. However, I was blown away in our beta testing. It may work better than any of our other stacks, which is nuts. I've tried every immune boosting supplement you can think of over the years. I mean pretty much anything you can think of. I was getting so sick every year, like 7-8 times a year. These were in bed shivering uncontrollably, down for 7 days feeling like I'm on death's door, kinds of sickness. It all started after I almost died in India. I was rushed to the hospital there with a blood pressure of 70 over 40, and my heart was about to stop. They didn't speak English, and I woke up with all sorts of IVs in me. I was sick for 6 months, and they never figured it out. I was tested for HIV and teburculosis, which was scary as hell waiting for those results! They wanted to take my passport away till they could figure out what I had. I went to tons of doctors and finally an immunologist in Colorado. I tried elderberry extract, olive leaf extract, grapefruit seed extract, echinacea, astragalus, all sorts of zinc and vitamin C/D, garlic extracts, mushroom blends, pine bark extract, rosemary extract, immunoglobulin A, ginseng, you name it. I eventually got it under control with strong probiotics and daily Epicor. I would still get sick occasionally, but it was a lot more rare and I did not feel like I was dying. It still lasted 5 days or so when I did get sick, but was much more manageable and lower-level. However, Immune Defense is totally different. It is the single most effective immune system supplement I have ever taken. I know it's funny that I sound surprised, because I developed it, but I have been let down so many times over the years with supplements that claim to improve immune function. So I was worried Immune Defense would be a letdown as well. It's not.
So Immune Defense is in a whole other category than Epicor. It also affects more than just the immune system, too. You feel great on it. It reduces inflammation and positively affects mood as well. You are getting really potent extracts of both reishi and turkey tail, along with a ton of other potent things like nigella sativa and palmitoylethanolamide. These are all great supplements on their own. Together they are amazing!