Comment · Mon, July 24, 2023 · Natrium Health & Nootropics Depot
Independent Lab Testing Results Of Supplements On The Market
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MisterYouAreSoDumb · 402 points
Hey everyone, it's been a while since I have made a post in this sub. However, I saw a new research study today that I wanted to bring up. It highlights why my main mission over the past 10 years has been to not only advance the lab testing and quality control standards of the industry, but also to educate consumers on what to look out for, and how things work in the background. We are all ingesting these products! We are putting them into our bodies, so it's crucial that companies selling them do everything necessary to ensure they are what they claim to be, and are pure and free from contaminants. That is unfortunately the vast exception to the rule. Many of you may remember my post about turkesterone results from last year.
That whole situation blew way up, and every jabroni on YouTube was making videos about it. Some were saying I was a liar and fraud, and just trying to sell products. Some were saying I was in for massive lawsuits. Most were just doing it to get their 5 m…
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Additional-Order-201 · 1 points
It certainly is not made up term. I know it because i work for a supplement / healthstore. I have direct access to the supplier lists from various manufacturers. Those lists clearly categorize FEED GRADE / FOOD GRADE / PHARMACEUTICAL GRADE. And the true percentages of each vitamin and mineral content of the product. So yes pharmaceutical grade is very real and not every supplement on the market is the same:)
u/MisterYouAreSoDumb · Natrium Health & Nootropics Depot
I own a supplement brand, and run an ISO accredited analytical testing lab. I've tested thousands of products in this market for a decade. I am telling you it is total BS. The words don't mean anything. Anyone can call anything feed grade, food grade, and pharmaceutical grade all they want. I am not disputing that some suppliers do call things that. I am just saying the words are not regulated, and are thus meaningless. I certainly know not every supplement on the market is the same. Most are total scams. I'd say 75% of the market will fail testing, if not more in certain sectors. I know this because I test everyone's products. No brand being honest would try to convince consumers that "pharmaceutical grade" is a defined real thing. The brands that do this are the ones just buying stuff from suppliers that claim that, then repeating it as a marketing term.
21 CRF 111.70 mandates that all supplements meet their label claims.
For each dietary supplement that you manufacture you must establish product specifications for the identity, purity, strength, and composition of the finished batch of the dietary supplement, and for limits on those types of contamination that may adulterate, or that may lead to adulteration of, the finished batch of the dietary supplement to ensure the quality of the dietary supplement.
Just because tons of supplement brands don't do this doesn't mean it's not required. Everything needs to be "pharmaceutical grade" or what you are trying to say is that. You are not allowed to claim 100mg of something, but only have 80mg of it. You are not allowed to put ingredients in that are contaminated or don't meet specifications. Per the laws and regulations, all supplements have to be exactly what they claim. You can't use "feed grade" raw materials in dietary supplements for humans, then claim it's fine because you are not claiming it to be "pharmaceutical grade" on the label. The FDA does regulate some terms. "Pharmaceutical grade" is not one of them. In fact, the FDA only uses that term in relation to drugs. Just Google "pharmaceutical grade supplements" and look at all the results. It's random sketchy brands trying to convince people it's a real thing to market their products. Just look at the FDA guidance on label claims.
There is nothing in there about "pharmaceutical grade" because it's not a real term.