Independent Lab Testing Results Of Supplements On The Market

Post · Tue, July 18, 2023 · 402 pts

Hey everyone, it's been a while since I have made a post in this sub. However, I saw a new research study today that I wanted to bring up. It highlights why my main mission over the past 10 years has been to not only adv

Comment · Tue, July 18, 2023 · 20 pts

Well look at the results. The methylliberine ones mostly contain the active they claim, other than the three that don't contain it at all. They just don't meet label claims. The turkesterone and octopamine ones are the r

Comment · Tue, July 18, 2023 · 87 pts

Not really a nootropics YouTube world. It's a bodybuilding YouTube world, and they are all mostly a mixture of complete fucking idiots, or totally insane.

Comment · Tue, July 18, 2023 · 24 pts

I don't think you want me answering that. LOL

Comment · Tue, July 18, 2023 · 42 pts

The author of that study has been sued before by a brand he released results on, so I think he is more hesitant to name names these days. You can see him even mention it in the conflict of interest section of the study.

Comment · Tue, July 18, 2023 · 12 pts

Anyone that is doing proper lab testing and quality control is good in my book! What all equipment do you guys have in your lab?

Comment · Tue, July 18, 2023 · 19 pts

We do independent testing now. https://omnientlabs.com/ We are an independent 3rd party ISO accredited lab now, and we do testing for multiple other supplement brands.

Comment · Tue, July 18, 2023 · 11 pts

Son of a bitch! I reread it multiple times, and even had my team read it to find discrepancies before posting. We all missed the typo!!! >I want accurate testing and disclosures but I'm concerned lawsuits would do even

Comment · Tue, July 18, 2023 · 15 pts

Yes, we subscribe to Consumer Lab. I have a few issues with their data and methodologies, but they are much better than Lab Door, that's for sure!

Comment · Tue, July 18, 2023 · 32 pts

It's more than sad. I am so jaded after a decade in this industry. I really am. I was so optimistic when I first started my company right here on /r/Nootropics back in 2013. I thought I would be able to quickly force pos

Comment · Tue, July 18, 2023 · 9 pts

Super glad it's been a nice cold summer with tons of rain so far! LOL

Comment · Tue, July 18, 2023 · 15 pts

All turkesterone on the market is fake. Most octopamine fake. Almost 90% of supplements tested did not meet label claim, with many having zero of what they claim. This bad.

Comment · Tue, July 18, 2023 · 8 pts

You'd have to ask the authors. However, the primary author on it has been sued before by a company he called out, so he is likely trying to protect himself. It's even mentioned in the study at the bottom. >Conflict of I

Comment · Tue, July 18, 2023 · 35 pts

I say that because I own a supplement company, so I only take our products now. I will take Thorne sometimes if we don't carry it, but that's about it these days. Everyone else has failed our testing at least once, inclu

Comment · Tue, July 18, 2023 · 17 pts

We run our own independent testing lab now, so we definitely do testing for other companies. https://omnientlabs.com/ I realize that many might just not know what they don't know. It's not an excuse in my mind, but I k

Comment · Wed, July 19, 2023 · 16 pts

I mean, I certainly agree with Nootropics Depot, since I own it. LOL. I don't want to get too far into shitting on other brands in this post. Consumer Lab is okay. We follow their results, and I have addressed a couple i

Comment · Wed, July 19, 2023 · 23 pts

I own Nootropics Depot, yes.

Comment · Wed, July 19, 2023 · 19 pts

If you send an email to [email protected], that's answered by my lab director. He's on Reddit, too. His handle is /u/Omnient_Labs. He would be better to message, as I don't really check PMs these days. >But... whe

Comment · Wed, July 19, 2023 · 4 pts

[Lucky!](https://media2.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExcnpjd3Q3ZGw3NzV4Z2p1bGJvZXRwbmFpZnIzMDcyanFqZXBlcG5tNCZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/yaYV8i5n1OjZe/giphy.gif)

Comment · Wed, July 19, 2023 · 7 pts

What do you take?

Comment · Wed, July 19, 2023 · 12 pts

Why won't Swanson release their COAs to anyone? They just stop responding when you ask, or outright refuse.

Comment · Wed, July 19, 2023 · 10 pts

Hey, if it works for you, stick with it! I use our EGCG and Microzinc everyday myself, and have been beta testing fucoidan. Citrus bioflavonoids is just a random grouping of them, but I take hesperidin and quercetin dail

Comment · Wed, July 19, 2023 · 5 pts

I didn't. Reddit's systems did it automatically. I think it is because of the swearing. Can't have people under 18 hearing no-no words, I guess...

Comment · Wed, July 19, 2023 · 7 pts

I don't mean YouTube as a whole. I meant all the accounts that popped up and made videos on the turkesterone situation last year. There are good YouTubers. I didn't mean for it to come across as I thought everyone on You

Comment · Wed, July 19, 2023 · 11 pts

Bout $3.50

Comment · Wed, July 19, 2023 · 11 pts

NOW is pretty good. They have their own lab, and my lab director has chatted with their lab director at the AOAC conference. That doesn't mean we haven't tested something of theirs that has failed, though. They are just

Comment · Wed, July 19, 2023 · 11 pts

Those sites are just BS. Not accurate at all. It says we have less than 25 employees... I have 90 employees, and we have 70,000 square feet of facility spread across 3 buildings. Hell, I have 18 people just in my lab.

Comment · Wed, July 19, 2023 · 4 pts

It was bigger years back, when people were putting it into preworkouts a lot. It's from bitter orange. People say it has mild fat burning effects, and WADA has banned it. I've never tried it, so I can't comment on its ef

Comment · Wed, July 19, 2023 · 8 pts

No offense taken! I find myself unnervingly cavalier at times, so you're in good company!

Comment · Wed, July 19, 2023 · 8 pts

>So did they ever find out what was actually in the (capsules, I'm assuming) of the brand selling the fake ginseng? It was American ginseng cut with corn starch. Lots of products on the market claiming to be Panax gins

Comment · Wed, July 19, 2023 · 9 pts

Yeah, it's fake man. Most top results on Amazon are. Then people say our Panax ginseng is overpriced, when they have just been buying fake shit the whole time. Frustrating doesn't even begin to explain my feelings on the

Comment · Wed, July 19, 2023 · 4 pts

A few, yes.

Comment · Wed, July 19, 2023 · 7 pts

I've released data and named names for literally ten years on here... Lab Door is sketch as hell, too! https://www.reddit.com/r/Nootropics/comments/5f5hgw/is_there_a_lab_that_tests_and_reports_on/ I'll have to see if I

Comment · Wed, July 19, 2023 · 5 pts

We live in the desert, and it's going to be like 117 degrees here today. We know how to deal with heat since we are used to it. Most things are much more thermally stable than people realize, too. Softgels are really the

Comment · Wed, July 19, 2023 · 4 pts

Probiotics are a totally different thing. Those are not heat stable, save for very specific strains. It's part of the reason we don't sell any probiotics yet, apart from the fact that the QA process is totally different.

Comment · Wed, July 19, 2023 · 6 pts

I think a lot of it is that people just don't understand how complex things really are, and what it takes to do it right. There's also no incentive for anyone to look deeper, as the industry standard is set so low. Why d

Comment · Thu, July 20, 2023 · 1 pts

I saw that. So dumb!

Comment · Thu, July 20, 2023 · 2 pts

It's really hard to generalize. More advanced botanical extracts tend to have more issues than basic things like magnesium. However, we have tested a ton of failing magnesium products, too. It really just depends. Curcum

Comment · Thu, July 20, 2023 · 2 pts

I commented on NOW above. https://www.reddit.com/r/Nootropics/comments/1534u76/independent_lab_testing_results_of_supplements_on/jslzsjj/