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Comment · Mon, January 6, 2020

D + K + Magnesium Stack Capsule

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ShouldReallyGetWorkn · 4 points

I have a pretty oversized pill case for all the daily supplements I take. It's tedious to portion out my vitamin D, Magnesium, and vitamin K every few weeks into each pill box compartment.

I consider those 3 and fish oil as my baseline supplements so it would be nice if I could get those all in the same capsules instead of having to juggle through all my pill bottles.

I realize that might make for very large capsules, but I wouldn't mind taking multiple if it still saves me that effort in dealing with different bottles and restocking each.

Any chance something like that might be in the future?

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juantoconero · 1 points

Chris Masterjohn considers MK-4 important, FWIW

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VITAMIN K1 (PHYLLOQUINONE)

This is the plant form. It supports clotting better than any other function, though not as well as MK-7 supports clotting.


MENAQUINONE-7 (MK-7)

This can be synthetic or naturally derived from fermented soybeans or chickpeas. Look for the products labeled as natural, since the synthetic versions have lower activity. This form supports clotting better than K1, and may reach bone better than MK-4, giving it advantages for supporting insulin, certain aspects of hormonal health, and energy utilization during exercise.


MENAQUINONE-4 (MK-4)

This is synthetic, even if it says it is derived from a plant source (it is synthesized from a precursor in plants). It is identical to the natural form as far as we know. This is the least effective form to support blood clotting but has unique effects in cancer protection and hormonal health. Although not well studied, it may be the best form for preventing soft tissue calcification.


I recommend seeking a supplement that contains a blend of forms that best matches what is missing from your diet. For example, if you do not eat many greens, it should contain K1. If you don't eat natto, it should contain MK-7. If you don't eat goose liver, dark chicken meat, or beef by the pound, it should c…

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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3502319/

Does that Chris guy cite any papers for his reasoning to include the other forms? If MQ-4 is not detected in the blood after supplemental dosing, it doesn't really matter what the in vitro and animal studies are showing. That's my issue with it.

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