Comment · Thu, December 8, 2016 · Ceretropic & Nootropics Depot
What they were answering
FLSverker · 3 points
I heard that sprays are more likely to provoke an autoimmune response than intramuscular (insulin epipen-style) injections. What is your take on this?
u/MisterYouAreSoDumb · Ceretropic & Nootropics Depot
My histamine issues occasionally happen with both nasal and sub-Q. I have not tried it IM, though.
Comment · Wed, December 7, 2016 · 49 pts
3 minutes, srubek! It only took you three minutes from when we sent out the email, to you posting here... Haha
Comment · Wed, December 7, 2016 · 29 pts
Here's the thing, I want to avoid giving my own anecdotes for a bit, to prevent confirmation bias. I don't want people seeing how I react, then convincing themselves they react the same way. I want people to try it thems
Comment · Wed, December 7, 2016 · 7 pts
Yes, we ship most packages out that are received before 4pm Phoenix time. There is a reason we waited till today to do it, since Wednesdays are ND's slowest day during the week. So my team is ready for an increase in Cer
Comment · Wed, December 7, 2016 · 3 pts
That's good to know! I'll have to read up on Suvorexant.
Comment · Wed, December 7, 2016 · 7 pts
It will be a regular offering. We might occasionally run out of sprays, till we make more. However, we have plenty of raw peptide.
Comment · Wed, December 7, 2016 · 11 pts
Roger that. I'll put it on the list.
Comment · Thu, December 8, 2016 · 16 pts
Wrong P21. That's a completely different compound. This is the P21 we are selling: http://imgur.com/a/mwkTy It's a an N-acetylated peptide with the amino sequence DGGL, which is aspartate-glycine-glycine-leucine, with
Comment · Thu, December 8, 2016 · 5 pts
That's the wrong P21 srubek!
Comment · Thu, December 8, 2016 · 5 pts
Negative, no human studies. We are the only ones to ever really synthesize it in any real quantities. N-PEPT-12 is just an attempt to make an orally bioavailable version of the peptides from Cerebrolysin, but I do not s
Comment · Thu, December 8, 2016 · 8 pts
Haha, that defeats the purpose of trying to avoid confirmation bias altogether.
Comment · Thu, December 8, 2016 · 11 pts
I saw that. It's fixed now. My web guy thought he was being helpful, not knowing it was a completely different P21. There is no Wikipedia entry for this P21.
Comment · Thu, December 8, 2016 · 3 pts
Yeah, that's fixed now. My web guy did not know this P21 did not have a Wikipedia entry.
Comment · Thu, December 8, 2016 · 4 pts
Studies usually use 50-100mcg nasally (1mcg/kg).
Comment · Thu, December 8, 2016 · 4 pts
Studies have shown that nasal ROA is over 10X as effective as IV. So nasal seems to be the most effective ROA. 1mcg/kg was used in the study for nasal.
Comment · Thu, December 8, 2016 · 8 pts
I'll definitely look into it. It seems interesting. I'll have to see how economically feasible it is.
Comment · Thu, December 8, 2016 · 11 pts
Yeah, I can see how you might be a bit confused as to what the hell was going on. Haha. I did not know my web guy linked it to that page. That's a VASTLY different compound, with no cognitive benefits that I can think of
Comment · Thu, December 8, 2016 · 40 pts
I just fired him for you srubek. His family with have no presents for Christmas this year.
Comment · Thu, December 8, 2016 · 15 pts
Always keep peptide in the fridge, as that is where they are most stable. They are MORE stable as a lyophilized powder in the vial, and become LESS stable once you mix them with water. However, some smaller sequence pept
Comment · Thu, December 8, 2016 · 3 pts
That's debatable. There is no human data on this one. So treat it as you would any other brand new nootropic compound with no human research behind it.
Comment · Thu, December 8, 2016 · 13 pts
Correct. The sequence was wrong. We attempted to use a lab in China to supply us P21 when our initial lab ran out of the amino acid we needed. This lab made us fake P21, with alanine instead of adamantane. So we rejected
Comment · Thu, December 8, 2016 · 6 pts
I personally use nasal.
Comment · Thu, December 8, 2016 · 6 pts
No, Orexin-A is a long sequence. So it is not as stable as Semax, P21, and Selank. If we premade nasal sprays, they would not be as potent after shipping. So the vials we sell on the site are all tear-off vials, allowing
Comment · Thu, December 8, 2016 · 15 pts
Simplicity. Nobody should be IVing anything. It's too dangerous. I don't even IM. Subcutaneous is all I will do.
Comment · Thu, December 8, 2016 · 3 pts
>That being said, it produces a histamine reaction from being taken intranasally...for starts *CAN, in me, a person with a histamine disorder. So weigh that out as well. Me getting histamine reactions from things is not
Comment · Thu, December 8, 2016 · 18 pts
I would not purport it as safe, since we don't have human studies behind it. I see no evidence to say it is unsafe, but that's not the same thing as safe. I tagged it as high risk because of how new it is.
Comment · Thu, December 8, 2016 · 3 pts
They are being made right now. I did not realize we ran out. It's like a madhouse here right now.
Comment · Thu, December 8, 2016 · 8 pts
You don't wake up sleep-deprived every day? Amateur! In all seriousness, it shows most promise as a wakefulness enhancer when you are sleep deprived. If you are getting enough sleep every day, then it's probably not goi
Comment · Thu, December 8, 2016 · 3 pts
Soon. I guess we only got a very small shipment in. So we are waiting on the larger one to arrive.
Comment · Thu, December 8, 2016 · 13 pts
Always the fridge, in both forms. Colder is always more stable for peptides. Freezer is fine for lyophilized peptides, but NOT once they are mixed with water. Freezing water forms crystals, which rip apart the peptide bo
Comment · Thu, December 8, 2016 · 2 pts
I believe they were trying to keep similar sequences to Cerebrolysin. So the MOA should be similar, if those sequences actually reach the brain via oral ROA. All I am seeing are effect studies, not pharmacokinetic studie
Comment · Thu, December 8, 2016 · 5 pts
Probably ours. Our new bank is very strict with filtering cards.
Comment · Thu, December 8, 2016 · 1 pts
We won't run out for at least a week at this rate. So it should be fine. We have more of both being made, though. It's not going away.
Comment · Thu, December 8, 2016 · 3 pts
My pleasure!
Comment · Thu, December 8, 2016 · 1 pts
Can't really say, as they are both very new.
Comment · Thu, December 8, 2016 · 3 pts
Nope, that ship has sailed, unfortunately. You can thank all the people committing fraud for that. We had over $10K in fraud because of gift certificates. So we had to remove that option.
Comment · Thu, December 8, 2016 · 24 pts
The answer to that is no. Please do not buy it.
Comment · Thu, December 8, 2016 · 16 pts
This is a very advanced nootropic peptide, with very little research behind it. Please do not consider it if you are not comfortable with the risk, and have researched extensively. This is not like Alpha Brain.
Comment · Thu, December 8, 2016 · 1 pts
You can still use it on ND.
Comment · Thu, December 8, 2016 · 8 pts
It's my company. I was being facetious. I would prefer people not purchase this product unless they have researched it, and fully understand the risks associated. It's a new compound with no human research. It should be
Trust me, I know. I've gotten hundreds, if not thousands, of emails about it. Our labs are not cooperating. The original lab will not do it anymore, due to the difficulty of synthesis. One of the new labs wants way too m
Replying to macwormer · /u/MisterYouAreSoDumb could you please comment ?
This is what Harambe died for: so that P21 may be unleashed unto the world. For it was foretold that the two of them could not exist concurrently. One must die so that the other can be born. Thank you, Harambe, for your
So they are FINALLY admitting to selling fake P21 all these years... Modified P21? LOL. Why not just call it what it actually was, improperly made. The Chinese supplier they use got confused by the way I typed the adaman
Replying to t3light · Not sure what is happening with this compound there was a point where Ceretropic was selling and I got myself a vial. I have to say, I still think back fondly about its effects, it…
Bitcoin has been messed up lately, too. FinCEN has been getting involved in Bitcoin, and causing all the major players to crack down on what they allow. Both Coinbase and Bitpay will not work with most nootropics vendors
No!!!! You can't just say, "Ohh, the active sequence in P21 is DGGL, so let's just sell powdered DGGL!" Pharmacodynamics do not work like that! That would be like saying, "Ohh dopamine is good. Let's sell powdered dopami
Replying to Pharnaces_II · This kind of thing is so common in the nootropics world, very annoying. Unfortunately honest descriptions ("May slightly improve memory and focus in individuals suffering from acut…
I have big red warnings on all the new and untested products. What else should I do, besides not offering them at all? We do not advertise, so I am not trying to get new users to buy anything, much less the new untested