Comment · Sat, January 3, 2015 · Ceretropic
how would you classify tianeptine as?
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nutrop · 2 points
Since it is uncontrolled in the U.S., it is being sold as a nootropic, but it sometimes fall under as TCA (tricyclic antidepressant) and as analgesic affecting the opioid receptor.
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DrMichaelPLudwig · 0 points
Potency does not correlate with addictiveness. Fentanyl was designed to provide less euphoria than classic opioids. Potency can kill, but it has nothing to do with how euphoric a drug is. Going further, potency was corrected for via dilution as the end goal was not to kill the subjects. The results of three pre-clinical trials demonstrating the safety and efficacy of a novel reward/reinforcement blunting compound are currently on file in house and they will stay that way for at least the next 18 months when the initial patent application is published.
u/MisterYouAreSoDumb · Ceretropic
Okay, perhaps I am misunderstanding you. You are not comparing the potency of Tianeptine to Acetylfentanyl then, correct? You are simply comparing the reinforcement characteristics of varying dosages of each drug. You are not saying that equal dosages of Tianeptine compare to the same dosages of Morphine and Acetylfentanyl?
That's a little more believable. I know you said that 100mg IV Tianeptine was equal efficacy to 100mg IV Heroin, though. Having not IV'd either of those, I cannot comment. However, I have had IV morphine, after an ATV accident. The rush and analgesia of that is light years ahead of anything I have felt from Tianeptine, and that was only like 4mg. I do agree that IVing Tianeptine is about as stupid as you can get. I am just very skeptical that the euphoria compares at all to Heroin.