Comment · Fri, December 20, 2013 · Ceretropic
Cerebral Health Pyritinol Test Results (WARNING)
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MisterYouAreSoDumb · 491 points
Many of you may remember the issue that came up with Cerebral Health/Bioscience Nutraceuticals a few months ago, where their choline bitartrate was numbing people's mouths. After sending those samples in to the lab, the tests came back negative for choline bitartrate. We suspected it was choline salacylate, but decided further testing to ascertain the exact compound would not be worth the cost. Unfortunately that was not the last issue to come from Cerebral Health.
A few weeks ago, another Redditor placed an order pyritinol from CH, along with some alpha GPC and oxiracetam. When the order arrived, both the alpha GPC and oxiracetam seemed alright. However, the pyritinol seemed off. Before thinking about it, he took his normal 400mg dose of pyritinol and went out for a mountain bike ride. Within 15-20 minutes he was getting a weird euphoria and detachment. After another couple minutes, his memory gets very fuzzy.
Eventually his sister found him in the garage in a manic/psychotic state. He was biting his lips very hard, shaking, and holding his fists tight. Eventually he went into seizures when the paramedics came. He was taken to the hospital and seized again while waiting for th…
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willreignsomnipotent · 1 points
Please accept this in the kindest, gentlest way possible... but every time I've seen you speculate in this thread so far, I get the sense that your speculations are pretty far off from the truth.
For example, I could have told you (pretty much immediately upon reading it) that the symptoms described in your OP were not those of MDPV overdose. (Blacking out is a dead give-away. Blackout is unlikely for any strong stimulant.)
Likewise:
If he is also running an RC business, he might have had them label his RC shipment as pyritinol, then forgot about it. Then accidentally started selling it thinking it was actually pyritinol.
When you got your coluracetam shipment, did you ask your supplier to mis-label it, or did the supplier do that all on their own?
IME that's usually how it works. The supplier deals with the details of shipping and customs declarations. I guess if you were a big enough, important enough customer, perhaps the supplier would alter their methods for you. But someone would have to be a serious, grade-A card-carrying moron to ask their supplier to mis-label a shipment of a research chemical with the name of another, non-psychoactive chemical which they also sell.
If I'm selling table salt and arsenic, I'm not going to ask my arsenic supplier to label the shipment as "table salt" just to get it through customs. That's almost begging for…
u/MisterYouAreSoDumb · Ceretropic
He did not black out. His memory got fuzzy. Perhaps I did not explain it properly. He was still awake and functioning, but he has no memory of certain time periods. It's hard to accurately relay stories told in conversation.
And yes, I did tell them what to label the coluracetam shipments as. Every good Chinese supplier asks what you want the shipment sent as. That is standard operating procedure in this space.
Did you read the edit? We tested the powder, and it was determined to be diphenhydramine (Benadryl). So we know what caused it now. There is no reason Cerebral Health would have ordered diphenhydramine for any reason. It was obviously a supplier issue. Since CH does not do any testing of their incoming products, any supplier mix-up will get strait to consumers.