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Comment · Wed, September 18, 2013 · Ceretropic

Cerebral Health Pyritinol Test Results (WARNING)

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MisterYouAreSoDumb · 491 points

Many of you may remember the issue that came up with Cerebral Health/Bioscience Nutraceuticals a few months ago, where their choline bitartrate was numbing people's mouths. After sending those samples in to the lab, the tests came back negative for choline bitartrate. We suspected it was choline salacylate, but decided further testing to ascertain the exact compound would not be worth the cost. Unfortunately that was not the last issue to come from Cerebral Health.

A few weeks ago, another Redditor placed an order pyritinol from CH, along with some alpha GPC and oxiracetam. When the order arrived, both the alpha GPC and oxiracetam seemed alright. However, the pyritinol seemed off. Before thinking about it, he took his normal 400mg dose of pyritinol and went out for a mountain bike ride. Within 15-20 minutes he was getting a weird euphoria and detachment. After another couple minutes, his memory gets very fuzzy.

Eventually his sister found him in the garage in a manic/psychotic state. He was biting his lips very hard, shaking, and holding his fists tight. Eventually he went into seizures when the paramedics came. He was taken to the hospital and seized again while waiting for th…

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ftst1 · 5 points

400mg of DMAA, although a huge dose, probably wouldn't cause what happened there. A lot of the "party pills" that contained DMAA had >200mg of it in combination with fairly large doses of caffeine and hordenine, and nothing like this has been reported from them.

(not that they're all good, there have been a few incidences of stroke reported IIRC)

... and never have I heard of DMAA causing "detached paranoia".

It is of course not necessarily MDPV, but whatever it is certainly isn't nice.

u/MisterYouAreSoDumb · Ceretropic

I have a feeling it's an analog of MDPV; perhaps naphyrone. Again, I am not saying this is for sure MDPV or another cathinone derivative. The Dancesafe testing will tell us that. It for sure is a psychoactive substance that is not pyritinol, though. However, all the evidence points to something in the cathinone class.

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