Comment · Wed, September 18, 2013 · Ceretropic
Cerebral Health Pyritinol Test Results (WARNING)
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MisterYouAreSoDumb · 491 points
Many of you may remember the issue that came up with Cerebral Health/Bioscience Nutraceuticals a few months ago, where their choline bitartrate was numbing people's mouths. After sending those samples in to the lab, the tests came back negative for choline bitartrate. We suspected it was choline salacylate, but decided further testing to ascertain the exact compound would not be worth the cost. Unfortunately that was not the last issue to come from Cerebral Health.
A few weeks ago, another Redditor placed an order pyritinol from CH, along with some alpha GPC and oxiracetam. When the order arrived, both the alpha GPC and oxiracetam seemed alright. However, the pyritinol seemed off. Before thinking about it, he took his normal 400mg dose of pyritinol and went out for a mountain bike ride. Within 15-20 minutes he was getting a weird euphoria and detachment. After another couple minutes, his memory gets very fuzzy.
Eventually his sister found him in the garage in a manic/psychotic state. He was biting his lips very hard, shaking, and holding his fists tight. Eventually he went into seizures when the paramedics came. He was taken to the hospital and seized again while waiting for th…
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SloBlaze · 107 points
Isn't it a major conflict of interest that a few of the mods own competing nootropics companies? I'm not trying to start some shit I just think that in the future as the nootropics industry grows and this subreddit becomes larger, there needs to be some transparency as to which mods are connected to which companies. With that said the mods here are doing great work so far. Thank you for bringing this to our attention.
u/MisterYouAreSoDumb · Ceretropic
Remember, I am not the only moderator. I have discussed my involvement in a vendor with the other mods long before we actually launched. We all agreed that there would be no conflict of interest as long as I excused myself from decisions about competing vendors, which I agreed to. We always discuss things like this openly with each other via mod mail. This is also why I had a different moderator order the sample and send it into the lab. There can be no argument that I am tainting samples to ruin the name of companies, as I never even touched the sample this time. I have no interest in ruining companies. A healthy and competitive nootropics market benefits us all.
Also, the original idea for Ceretropic was thought up by /u/guacamolium. He saw that we agreed a lot on here, and thought that partnering would be a good fit. I never wanted to start a vendor. However, after lot of discussions with Jason, I thought we could do some interesting things, and possibly drive innovation in the nootropics market. Because of that, I agreed to get involved.
If you trusted me before, then there should be no reason not to continue trusting me. I have done nothing but be open and honest in all my dealings. I even have good relationships with many of the other vendors on here. I would never use any influence that I may have to subvert their efforts, or risk losing the trust people have put in me. If you want me to put flair next to my name, I am ok with that. I figured as much as I comment on here, most people already know about my involvement in Ceretropic.
EDIT: HAHA, no reason NOT to continue trusting me! Stupid double negatives.