Comment · Fri, December 5, 2025 · ND Owner
Ordering emoxypine
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MystikTrailblazer · 8 points
I was excited to see Nootropics Depot emoxypine show up in a web search but I cannot find it on the actual ND website.
Is this a product that will become available again?
What they were answering
tyham · 3 points
IIRC, ND used to at least ask permission from their bank (payment processor?) and lawyers before each new product. Bromantine was one the bank wouldn't approve and they couldn't even carry before all this.
Maybe not anymore these days because all the new stuff is naturally occuring.
u/MisterYouAreSoDumb · ND Owner
We have had to do legal analyses of any ingredient we want to sell for many years, and have to pre-clear those ingredients with our card processing bank. That was in place since around 2016. That is still in place. We still need to do that. It doesn't matter if things are naturally occurring. It's about legal risk for the bank, and we need to ensure our bank is okay with everything first. This is a factor in why I was not charged with felonies. We had programs and systems in place attempting to assess legalities of every ingredient we sell, and every ingredient was approved by the legal departments of our processing bank. All the ingredients we sold were approved by the bank when the government came into our facility. In fact, we had dropped ingredients at the request of the bank prior. We stopped selling tianeptine sodium in January 2017 and tianeptine sulfate in June 2018 because we had conversations with our bank about both them and us no longer wanting to be a part of that market. This was many years before the government raided us. We've even restricted certain products to specific dosages or to limit the units per order, based on the requests from our processing bank. Even so, we are still considered a high risk merchant. Anyone in the supplement industry is, whether they know it or not. Things can change on the banking side quickly. Recently, our card processor was bought by a larger bank. That larger bank is much more risk averse, which caused them to drop us. So a few weeks ago we were actually dropped by our card processor again. It was the first time in many years. However, we have good relationships with people in that side of the industry now, and the former president of the bank we were working with left and started his own processor, so we got onboarded with him. This meant that even though we were dropped by our card processor, we didn't really have any downtime, because we were able to spool up a new one before we had to shut off the old one. Fun times...