Comment · Wed, May 31, 2023 · ND Owner
I don’t know how other supplement subs are still able to badmouth ND
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skyhighblue340 · 39 points
I came across this post on the NMN sub:
I cannot believe some of the quackery on here. ND has gone far and above to prove their purity… but even despite that a lot of people are making unfounded claims. The OP himself even said the NMN worked but thought maybe it was laced with something else for the energy.
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Nemesis_Ra_Algoras · 9 points
I bought both ND's enteric coated NMN and ABS's LIPO NMN in the past. I have been skeptical about whether Renue's formulation was made and tested correctly. In my subjective experience, ND's 250mg enteric coated NMN gave me some acute effects, such as completely removing brain fog after losing sleep.
The Renue LIPO NAD+ Complete didn't have an acute effect at all at the same dosage, I could barely feel it. Maybe I ain't supposed to feel it cuz it's an extended release? The LIPO Gel was able to clear my brain fog if I held it under the tongue for awhile.
Then today I learned that it's not always a good idea to take LIPO (assuming it's not fake) cuz some cells may not want them but being forced to. Not sure if this claim can be backed. Guess I'm going back to ND's enteric NMN x365 bottle. Better safe than sorry.
u/MisterYouAreSoDumb · ND Owner
Just ask for the lab data showing their "LIPO" stuff is actually liposomal. Show any lab data that they have formed real liposomal particles. I have yet to see any retail brand with the lab data even proving the product is liposomal, much less that the liposomes actually do what they claim. Also, they just started selling enteric coated NMN like us, after badmouthing the idea for years. Ask them for the dissolution lab data to show it performs as enteric.
Like honestly, is it too much to ask brands show lab data for their claims? I'd love to sell liposomal stuff. However, I can't confirm anything on the market is even real, so I won't put my name behind it. I've found one single manufacturer that provides me the data showing they can make liposomes, and they only make a few niche things. I've spoken to them about doing others, and they said it is a very intensive process to apply the liposomal technology to different molecules. It's not just chucking a new thing into some sunflower lecithin and sonicating it like most manufacturers are doing. You have to do real chemistry, and it doesn't always work. However, everyone and their mother is just claiming liposomal this, liposomal that, all over the internet now. Just say it is a liposome! People won't know any better! It's a marketing buzzword at this point. Just show me the lab data. That's all I ask of any brand. Well that... and to not shill. Ohh, I guess also to not make disease claims. Ohh, and to properly test every batch, and adhere to proper quality control processes, cGMP, tracking, etc... but that's all.