Comment · Thu, June 1, 2023 · ND Owner
I don’t know how other supplement subs are still able to badmouth ND
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skyhighblue340 · 39 points
I came across this post on the NMN sub:
I cannot believe some of the quackery on here. ND has gone far and above to prove their purity… but even despite that a lot of people are making unfounded claims. The OP himself even said the NMN worked but thought maybe it was laced with something else for the energy.
What they were answering
verifitting · 2 points
Just show me the lab data. That's all I ask of any brand. Well that... and to not shill. Ohh, I guess also to not make disease claims. Ohh, and to properly test every batch, and adhere to proper quality control processes, cGMP, tracking, etc... but that's all.
But you guys don't even third party test! The 'gold standard' of any testing!!
/s :(
u/MisterYouAreSoDumb · ND Owner
Their arguments are so stupid. "Conflict of interest!" Uhh, who do you think sends the samples in to these 3rd party labs for our competitors? The objective science fairy?!? No, the fucking brands send the samples! They could send a good sample to the lab to get a number, and use a different batch for the actual production run. That happens all the time, too. Some brands have wised up to my talk about shitty labs and dry labs, so they actually use decent ISO certified labs. They just send different samples in to get the COA they want, then use shitty cheaper batches for the actual run. The fact that these people yelling about bias and objectivity don't realize this is just crazy to me. Moreover, most brands use contract manufacturers. That's a whole other level in there. It's the contract manufacturer sending the samples to the labs, not the brands. This means the brand has to trust that the contract manufacturer sent a real sample, sampled properly, and used that same batch in the production run. Then the customer has to trust both the brand, the contract manufacturer, and the lab. Moreover, because these brands don't do anything themselves, they don't understand the complexities of the science. They quite literally don't know what they don't know. The idea that a brand like us, who has spent the time and money to build a world class analytical testing lab, is somehow worse than other brands using labs they don't know, and science they don't understand, is just asinine.