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Comment · Wed, July 28, 2021 · ND Owner

Can someone explain Tongkat Ali dosing to me?

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troppofigocanadese · 28 points

I watched this Youtube clip with Andrew Huberman talking about it on the Joe Rogan podacast. He said to take 400mg/day.

But everyone here talks about the dosing as 2% or 10%? How many mg are in each of those 2 options?

Below is the link to the YT clip.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJWmJo3w\_0Y&ab\_channel=PowerfulJRE

What they were answering

CompuuterJuice · 3 points

Is it possible that eurycomanone isn’t the only Quassinoid that is at play? Like could the extraction process maybe leave some others out which could decrease the effectiveness? I know sometimes with things like this there’s synergistic effects between different components.

u/MisterYouAreSoDumb · ND Owner

100%. Eurycomanone is absolutely not the only one at play. It's just the most studied active compound, and a good marker for extraction efficiency. This is why some people prefer our 2% to our 10%. The other compounds affect people differently. We are developing more advanced analytical methods to get a larger holistic snapshot. It would be kind of like looking at ashwagandha as just a withanolide-A standardization. You would be missing the other withanolides. This is also why we helped develop new analytical methods for Shoden. Sometimes the industry standard for standardization is missing a big piece of the picture. We are always looking to fill in the gaps and advance the science.

That being said, powdered root is not going to be anywhere near a good extract in effectiveness. I've personally tried 15 different tongkat alis on the market when we were developing ours. Powdered tongkat ali root might as well be a different plant to an extract like our 2% or 10%. It would be like comparing Shoden to powdered ashwagandha root. Just much different levels of efficacy.

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