Comment · Thu, December 18, 2014 · Ceretropic
Noohack.com example of hyperbolic exaggerating language.
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theskepticalidealist · 60 points
Sorry to call you out Noohack, but it pisses me off to see companies do this. You're new and you should not go down this road. You're not the only company that exaggerates the effects of nootropics, but this is one of the worst examples I've seen in a while, barring a few notable exceptions.
Oxiracetam does not give you a photographic memory, no "nootropic" does, at least not yet. (And no, saying "near" doesn't help). This is such an exaggeration it might as well be a lie. The old Nootropics.co.uk used to sell similar products (pressed pills of pure powder), but from what I saw they only repeated what the scientific literature said and gave you links to all those studies if you wanted to see them. There's many ways to make a substance sound more effective than it is in a much more honest way.
I expect most people that come to the site anyway will be people that already know about the substance and just want a good deal from a trustworthy vendor. If people (are stupid enough) to buy a product without researching it first, they will be disappointed and you'll have to deal with the complaints and you may even put someone off nootropics com…
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Pharnaces_II · 7 points
With Phenylpiracetam Hydrazide it isn't being OVERsold by Ceretropic, he just says here's the chemical and you can choose to buy it or not. It also clearly says not for human consumption and that its for research purposes only, which should indicate that your own research on the safety should be done and then you can choose to buy it or not buy it. He doesn't say things like "Phenylpiracetam Hydrazide gives you near photographic memory".
They don't really make any distinction between phenylpiracetam hydrazide, a research chemical, vs tianeptine, a pharmaceutical drug. They both have essentially the same warning.
Phenylpiracetam hydrazide:
WARNING: This product is not approved for human consumption, and is intended for laboratory research purposes only.
Tianeptine:
This product is not approved for human consumption, and is intended for research purposes only
These statements are there because of a legal loophole that allows unscheduled drugs to be sold as research chemicals; the same loophole that allows RC vendors to sell amphetamines, LSD analogues, synthetic cannabinoids, etc.
This is still rather a minor point when you're buying something that's clearly a research chemical. Your example of 2-FA being called "Zadderall" is actually a poor example because Adderal is a brand name whereas Modafinil is the chemical name. The issue with Hydrafinil is in people beli…
u/MisterYouAreSoDumb · Ceretropic
I just saw that Jason changed the description on the Phenyl Hydrazide page to be more vanilla than I had it at launch. I have changed it back. However, the Hydrafinil page has stated the below message in red the entire time.
WARNING: This is a brand new and untested substance. There is little safety data regarding its use in humans. It is not approved for human consumption, and is intended for laboratory research purposes only.
I think that makes it pretty clear to anyone ordering it. I am certainly not making outlandish marketing statements.