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Comment · Thu, December 18, 2014 · Ceretropic

Noohack.com example of hyperbolic exaggerating language.

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theskepticalidealist · 60 points

Sorry to call you out Noohack, but it pisses me off to see companies do this. You're new and you should not go down this road. You're not the only company that exaggerates the effects of nootropics, but this is one of the worst examples I've seen in a while, barring a few notable exceptions.

Oxiracetam does not give you a photographic memory, no "nootropic" does, at least not yet. (And no, saying "near" doesn't help). This is such an exaggeration it might as well be a lie. The old Nootropics.co.uk used to sell similar products (pressed pills of pure powder), but from what I saw they only repeated what the scientific literature said and gave you links to all those studies if you wanted to see them. There's many ways to make a substance sound more effective than it is in a much more honest way.

I expect most people that come to the site anyway will be people that already know about the substance and just want a good deal from a trustworthy vendor. If people (are stupid enough) to buy a product without researching it first, they will be disappointed and you'll have to deal with the complaints and you may even put someone off nootropics com…

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Lysergic-Urgeic · 2 points

The onus of preventing an unreliable customer from buying these compounds with no knowledge of them and with reckless abandon in my opinion falls on "Bill" in this example. In my experience, friends and co-workers often will reach a point where their curiosity is piqued enough to ask me where they can get the nootropics and compounds I am taking. Personally, I tell them that I won't reveal any sources or how to get them until they take it upon themselves to learn about and research these compounds. When they have demonstrated an interest beyond "ooh, a smart powder, I don't know what it is, but let me take some!" I then will engage them in a healthy, responsible dialogue about the right way to begin nootropics with air of caution and skepticism. It seems to me that its up to the person who has the information and sources to properly vet and control just who and how they give the information to. This has worked well for me, and I now have a few friends that are beginning their nootropic journey after they took the time to really research and understand what they are taking. I encourage this kind of attitude with anyone who displays a solid interest.

u/MisterYouAreSoDumb · Ceretropic

Exactly. I cannot vet every customer that purchases from us, and see if they really know what they are getting into. The onus should be on everyone making suggestions to their friends and family, to explain there are risks.

I've had customers buy peptides, then write me confused how to use this strange vial they just bought. They did not even look up what a peptide is, much less the effects and risks associated with that specific one. Eventually I am going to break the company into two parts. One for the natural and proven supplements, and one for the newer untested ones. That will help isolate the issue a bit. However, if Bill keeps telling people to use P21, they will find a way to get it somehow.

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