Skip to content

Comment · Thu, December 18, 2014 · Ceretropic

Noohack.com example of hyperbolic exaggerating language.

Original post in this thread

theskepticalidealist · 60 points

Sorry to call you out Noohack, but it pisses me off to see companies do this. You're new and you should not go down this road. You're not the only company that exaggerates the effects of nootropics, but this is one of the worst examples I've seen in a while, barring a few notable exceptions.

Oxiracetam does not give you a photographic memory, no "nootropic" does, at least not yet. (And no, saying "near" doesn't help). This is such an exaggeration it might as well be a lie. The old Nootropics.co.uk used to sell similar products (pressed pills of pure powder), but from what I saw they only repeated what the scientific literature said and gave you links to all those studies if you wanted to see them. There's many ways to make a substance sound more effective than it is in a much more honest way.

I expect most people that come to the site anyway will be people that already know about the substance and just want a good deal from a trustworthy vendor. If people (are stupid enough) to buy a product without researching it first, they will be disappointed and you'll have to deal with the complaints and you may even put someone off nootropics com…

What they were answering

theskepticalidealist · 1 points

You see that's my point, I'd say you did the right thing because its hard to argue with "well that's what the study/scientific literature calls it". I expect it would have been hard to come up with a name when its effects are more unclear, its not like modafinil where you can just take words like "alert" and "wakeful" and go to the thesaurus and start sticking bits of words together.

u/MisterYouAreSoDumb · Ceretropic

I was going to base the name off Cerebrolysin, since that is the mechanism it is trying to improve. But remember, I got it synthesized without knowing if it would work or not. And I also thought about new users, and what a marketable name might do to their risk assessment. P21 is pretty clinical, so that leads to less people wanting to try it solely for the name.

Other MYASD lines in this thread

Related in the archive

Commentr/NootropicsDec 7, 2016

IT'S HERE!!!! P21

Replying to janowski_d · u/MisterYouAreSoDumb any chance you can describe P21 and Orexin-A and how they affect you? I know basics of them, but still info is quite spare. Is Orexin-a worth trying on top o

Here's the thing, I want to avoid giving my own anecdotes for a bit, to prevent confirmation bias. I don't want people seeing how I react, then convincing themselves they react the same way. I want people to try it thems

29P21CerebrolysinModafinilPeptides
Commentr/NootropicsFeb 18, 2015

Anyone experimented with THT's CNTF fragment 147-150?

No!!!! You can't just say, "Ohh, the active sequence in P21 is DGGL, so let's just sell powdered DGGL!" Pharmacodynamics do not work like that! That would be like saying, "Ohh dopamine is good. Let's sell powdered dopami

17NoopeptSemaxP21Cerebrolysin
Commentr/NootropicsAug 14, 2014

[High Risk] Has anybody tried P21 yet? It's supposed to be a better version of Cerebrolysin.

Replying to FW900 · Probably safer than Cerebrolysin. No concerns over prions, less risk injecting it subcutaneously vs IM or IV, not loaded with vitamins. This would be perfect to have as a spray bo

Damn guys, I just put it up on the site last night. There is already a post about it? Haha. I am only on my second dose of it. It's very hard to convert the rat dosages in the study to human dosages, because they never

10SemaxP21CerebrolysinPeptides
Commentr/NootropicsMar 8, 2015

Cerebrolysin vs p21.. anyone tried both can comment on difference in effectiveness?

Replying to Jackolysis · Not really enchanced it's more of a see below.

It was enchanted by a woodland fairy. No, it was based off the mechanism of Cerebrolysin. They found out CNTF mediated the neurogenetive effects of Cerebrolysin, then used epitope mapping to find the most potent sequenc

7P21CerebrolysinPeptides
Commentr/NootropicsJan 3, 2015

Has anyone found SEMAX helpful for (social) anxiety issues ?

Semax is very different than Cerebrolysin. Our P21 is the one that is similar to Cerebro. Semax is more like a stimulating noopept, if that makes any sense.

6NoopeptSemaxP21Cerebrolysin
Commentr/NootropicsAug 20, 2015

Anyone else interested in P21 nasal spray from Ceretropic?

Replying to roybo · Is there any research on p21? The search term "p21" gets over 31k hits on pubmed. The p21 page on wikipedia refers to some massive protein that has something to do with cancer. Ca

You are looking at the wrong P21. There are two compounds commonly referred to as P21.

5P21CerebrolysinPeptides