Comment · Sun, December 8, 2013 · Ceretropic
Noopept, alcohol, and hangovers
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dubyrunning · 43 points
After reading about them for a while, I finally decided to give nootropics a try and see what all the fuss is about. I started fairly aggressively, ordering 5g of Noopept, 10 g of phenylpiracetam, and a bunch of L-theanine, all from LiftMode. So far I've only taken the Noopept and L-theanine, since I'm waiting for my choline to arrive before trying the phenyl.
I tried Noopept for the first time yesterday, taking 30 mg orally in water, but then another 30 mg sublingually about an hour later when I read that's a better method (which based on the literature is debatable). While I did feel my focus to be slightly enhanced, I am wary that that may be a placebo effect, and that the benefits of Noopept are said to be gradual and cumulative.
What I simply cannot chalk up to a placebo is the effect it had on me when I got bombed (or rather should have gotten bombed) last night. I drank eight beers and two generous glasses of Maker's Mark over the course of five hours while watching a couple movies and hanging out with my girlfriend. I'm no stranger to drinking for fun, and I know my limits. This was well beyond them, and yet I felt none of the fuzziness or lack of focus…
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GetsEclectic · 5 points
The sublingual bioavailability is much better:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Noopept#Bioavailability_Source.3F
The trick to taking stuff sublingually is to not talk or move your tongue around once you've put it there, otherwise a bunch of saliva will pool up.
I would stick to 10mg as higher doses tend to negatively affect short term memory, and increase the likelihood of withdrawal symptoms if you stop taking it. I was taking 20mg 2x daily for a while and got a moderate headache when I stopped. MisterYouAreSoDumb suggested it works better for him when only taken a few days a week.
u/MisterYouAreSoDumb · Ceretropic
Hahahaha, I forgot about my discussion on Wikipedia with mistercow!