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Comment · Wed, August 14, 2013 · Ceretropic

Energy and IQ - A common mechanism?

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PasswordIS09876 · 12 points

Note: when I say IQ I'm talking about only the reason making sections similar to Advance Progressive Matrices/Raven Matrices.

There are very few studies showing interventions that increase IQ/Raven Matrices/APM but it seems that among those that do there may be a common mechanism. That mechanism seems to be increased neuronal metabolism.

Creatine has also been shown to increase performance on the Raven Matrices test, for vegetarians and meat eaters alike 1 2. There is some talk about creatine not being a cognitive enhancer for meat-eaters, but its IQ increasing effects have never been refuted only its effects on less demanding tasks. Given creatine seems to be an energy buffer, it seems entirely plausible that it wouldn't affect less intensive tasks. The supposed null result from creatine didn't measure anything related to IQ and was specifically designed to be able to find only the most robust effect, given its tiny sample size 3.

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deh707 · 1 points

Ah, thanks for the insight. I'm considering ashwagandha and ginseng, too.

Funny how each category/sub-category of common nootropics have one property or the other (energizing or calming, in general).

From experience, the energizing property seems to come from things like caffeine, oxiracetam, and from you're describing, possibly Rhodiola.

The calming property seem to come from things like theanine, aniracetam, and bacopa.

While the effects of two different categorized nootropics (stim/racetam/adaptogen) may seem similar, I'm assuming they are working in completely different methods/different pathways.

u/MisterYouAreSoDumb · Ceretropic

Totally different pathways. However, they are all linked. The energizing effects from racetams are glutamate mediated, where rhiodiola is β-adrenergic. Caffeine is adenosine mediated, which indirectly affects the other systems.

The calming effect of theanine is GABA mediated, where bacopa is serotonin. Aniracetam has weak GABA affinities.

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