Comment · Tue, August 13, 2013 · Ceretropic
Energy and IQ - A common mechanism?
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PasswordIS09876 · 12 points
Note: when I say IQ I'm talking about only the reason making sections similar to Advance Progressive Matrices/Raven Matrices.
There are very few studies showing interventions that increase IQ/Raven Matrices/APM but it seems that among those that do there may be a common mechanism. That mechanism seems to be increased neuronal metabolism.
Creatine has also been shown to increase performance on the Raven Matrices test, for vegetarians and meat eaters alike 1 2. There is some talk about creatine not being a cognitive enhancer for meat-eaters, but its IQ increasing effects have never been refuted only its effects on less demanding tasks. Given creatine seems to be an energy buffer, it seems entirely plausible that it wouldn't affect less intensive tasks. The supposed null result from creatine didn't measure anything related to IQ and was specifically designed to be able to find only the most robust effect, given its tiny sample size 3.
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EnLilaSko · 1 points
Or supplement ATP directly - http://www.lef.org/Vitamins-Supplements/Item01323/Peak-ATP-with-GlycoCarn.html
Idk how effective it is, but some studies (well, one) showing that ATP + HMB is quite awesome for building LBM, adding creatine will most likely make it more awesome.
Have anyone seen any studies on ATP supplement and cognition?
EDIT: Isn't the new "TULIP stack" based on mitochondrial power (and thus ATP)?
u/MisterYouAreSoDumb · Ceretropic
I've heard good things about the PLCAR. People say it gives a lot more peripheral energy than ALCAR, where ALCAR gives more mental energy.
Now supplementation of ATP directly will not lead to increased intracellular ATP. That is why creatine is used. It gets transported into the cell, then leads to higher ATP levels. ATP that is supplemented directly breaks down quickly into adenosine outside of the cell. This means that it is not useful for energy within the cell. It has been shown to promote bloodflow, so that can help. However, it will not replace creatine.