Comment · Tue, July 25, 2023 · ND Owner
r/NMN says ND is D tier???
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SoThisIsInteresting · 59 points
The subreddit nmn gave ND a D tier grade for their nmn product. I’ll try to link in the comments so you can read what it entails.
u/misteryouaresodumb say it aint so. I spend probably $500+ a year w you guys. I’m curious if you've seen this, if this has been posted before, and what has been done.
Ive been taking enteric coated for a few weeks now so I am just trying to understand whats going on here. Thanks
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IntrepidMayo · 3 points
What do you think about bulk supplement creatine monohydrate?
u/MisterYouAreSoDumb · ND Owner
I don't buy products from companies that do no lab testing, don't share COAs, and participate in astroturfing and shilling. Moreover, in organizations like that, it's less about the absolute quality of a product, and more about the variability. One batch might be fine, and then the next fake or impure. You can't know, because there is no real quality system in place to ensure products are what they claim to be every batch. This happened recently with Toniq's NMN. Chromadex tested it, and they failed by a small margin on label claims.
You can see that they had 289mg per dose when they claimed to have 300mg. So it was a fail, but it was closer than some, so some people said that was okay. Then another guy tested a different batch of their NMN, and it filed miserably.
https://youtu.be/QHADkYw1KPk?t=352
Here is a screenshot of the results.
You can see there was only 85mg in each capsule, when they claimed 150mg. People ask how that jives with the Chromadex testing. Well, this guy tested a different batch, and Toniiq doesn't have proper lab testing, so every batch will be a crap shoot. That's the exact same for Bulk Supplements. We test stuff all the time from them that fails. That doesn't mean every batch will fail, though. It's luck of the draw. It's how you can have people that say they seemed to get effects from a brand, but others saying they didn't, or got bad side effects. This is why proper lab testing and quality control is a must, and why quality systems should be the cornerstone of a brand. Unfortunately, almost no supplement brands do. They are all just glorified marketing companies selling people untested shit and hoping for the best.