Comment · Wed, June 15, 2022 · ND Owner
Lab Testing Results Of Turkesterone, Beta Ecdysterone, and Gorilla Mind Sigma
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MisterYouAreSoDumb · 866 points
Okay, so I am finally getting around to make a post about the results of some of the lab testing we have been doing. I've had the results for a bit, but I've been holding off on officially releasing them because frankly it stresses me out these days. It's the same song and dance every time, and it is one I have been doing for a decade now. I release results showing other products are not what they claim, then people attack me and claim I am lying to sell more product. Sometimes the attacks are relatively harmless, and just raise my blood pressure a bit for a day or two. Other times they are death threats to me, my family, and my team. It's not fun sometimes. You'll notice I don't do this nearly as much as I did back in the day on /r/Nootropics. I was younger and more gung-ho then, and had a lot less on my plate. Plus, my family and team kind of pleaded with me to stop doing it so much because of all the attacks and threats. This is why I have not been releasing things like this as much these days. It's not because product quality magically got better in the industry, I can tell you that much! Anyway, let's just get into it.
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KINGeXeL · 2 points
Love this and would love to try your product! I did a log on the effects of Ecdysterone (I did this through mass spinach and quinoa consumption) and was pretty surprised. Of course, the levels of Ecdy were much lower, but studies did show benefit of as low as 12mg of pure Ecdysterone. Would love to talk to see if I could get a log going of your new Ecdysterone. Also, in your opinion, how do you feel about Ecdysterone and will you be doing any studies on how humans react to it? I feel that we have quite a lack of actual paperwork on it and I think we definitely need some from a source such as yourself.
u/MisterYouAreSoDumb · ND Owner
Beta ecdysterone is an interesting one. I was not really convinced of it from what I was seeing a while back, but then I found this study.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4447764/
Beta-Ecdysterone was comparable or more anabolic than dihydrotestosterone (DHT), Insulin-like growth factor 1 (IGF-1), metandienone (Dianabol), estradienedione (Dienedione), and SARM S-1. That was in-vitro, but that's pretty crazy that it yielded significantly higher effects than those anabolics. This is due to its effects on ERβ. I was skeptical of it too, but it really is having an effect.
Then this study: https://mdpi-res.com/d_attachment/metabolites/metabolites-11-00366/article_deploy/metabolites-11-00366-v2.pdf?version=1624012996
So it is orally absorbed in humans, and has a good half life. We got samples in to try, and I could definitely feel it strongly. That changed my mind on it, which is why we decided to bring it out. I think it has its place in a workout stack.