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Comment · Tue, June 14, 2022 · ND Owner

Lab Testing Results Of Turkesterone, Beta Ecdysterone, and Gorilla Mind Sigma

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MisterYouAreSoDumb · 866 points

Okay, so I am finally getting around to make a post about the results of some of the lab testing we have been doing. I've had the results for a bit, but I've been holding off on officially releasing them because frankly it stresses me out these days. It's the same song and dance every time, and it is one I have been doing for a decade now. I release results showing other products are not what they claim, then people attack me and claim I am lying to sell more product. Sometimes the attacks are relatively harmless, and just raise my blood pressure a bit for a day or two. Other times they are death threats to me, my family, and my team. It's not fun sometimes. You'll notice I don't do this nearly as much as I did back in the day on /r/Nootropics. I was younger and more gung-ho then, and had a lot less on my plate. Plus, my family and team kind of pleaded with me to stop doing it so much because of all the attacks and threats. This is why I have not been releasing things like this as much these days. It's not because product quality magically got better in the industry, I can tell you that much! Anyway, let's just get into it.

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moehrse · 3 points

Check this company from Tashkent:

https://bioplantek.uz/products/

This one also looks quite good (UK):

https://www.tonvara.net/bodybuilding-athletic-supplements/tonvara-ajugaturk-genuine-uzbekistan-turkesterone-from-ajuga-turkestanica-extract-with-amberboost-for-double-the-power.html

Edit: apparently this is the company Bioplantek is getting their Ajuga from:

https://bioton-uz.translate.goog/2016/11/16/Экстракт-живучки-туркестанской/?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp

Edit 2: I think this is the producer (Bioton) everyone is getting it from incl. the exporter Bioplantek. If you read the report on the translated page, it says: “the active substance for which the certification of Zhivuchka Turkestanskaya is carried out is ecdysterone (chemical formula - C₂₇H₄₄O₇), the mass fraction of which can be from 2 to 10%.” If detecting Turkesterone is not that simple, I think they are simply checking ecdy content in the 10% extracts they make in UZ and then it’s somehow gets labeled Turkesterone 10% because it’s from the Turk plant. So the Turkesterone products might be genuine (not fake per se) but the distributora can’t do anything about the already made extracts they get from UZ claiming it has Turkesterone in it (Bioplantek says 10% turk plus some new magic Ajugasterone at min. 2%) which it does but very very low compared to Ecdy. I am no chemists, pls chec…

u/MisterYouAreSoDumb · ND Owner

I believe we have a sample of Tonvara turkesterone on the way to test. You could be right in everyone just assuming it is turkesterone, but it is really beta ecdysterone, and maybe it is lost in translation from Uzbekistan? They are not making any turkesterone claims on that page, only beta ecdysterone.

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