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Comment · Thu, April 14, 2022 · ND Owner

Sigma - New supplement containing Tongkat Ali made in collaboration with A.Huberman.

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RPher · 51 points

Here is the video presentation by More Plates More Dates, the guy who also sells Turkesterone : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzqI0XEoWes

This is not advertising. I only trust ND products. The reason I'm posting this is because I'm well aware that ND Tongkat Ali is the only one on the market that actually contains a verified and significant amount of Eurycomanone.

But now, there is this new product associated with a big name like A.Huberman. And I would feel very disappointed that even a well respected name like him would be associated with a supplement that contains a crappy Tongkat Ali extract...

So I'm curious, u/NootropicsDepotGuru u/Pretty-Chill u/misteryouaresodumb, what do you think of the formulation of this product ? How likely is it that it contains a legit dose of Eurycomanone? And if you had to make a Natrium Testosterone Booster, what would you do differently ?

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Marrked · 8 points

Now the question is: when are you going on Rogan to get all this info out to the masses?

I don't have to verify things like you do. But, as a consumer, it's exhausting enough not being able to trust anyone. I can't imagine having to deal with that on your scale.

u/MisterYouAreSoDumb · ND Owner

I have tried to personally stay out of the spotlight for the most part. I wanted to focus on us as a company, and our mission as a unified team. So many times it can become an ego fest with the founders of companies going on and on about themselves. It's exhausting seeing that all the time. I don't care about you, dude. Everyone has a story. You are not unique! It really detracts from the main message. I never wanted to be a guru. I never wanted people to look at me as some sort of all-knowing authority. I wanted people to associate my mission with my company and my team. It's not just about me. I am leading things, but there are over 80 people behind me on my team making my mission possible. I can steer the ship, but I wanted people to focus on the ship and crew, rather than the captain.

That being said, I am starting to realize that to get inspired enough to care about the mission, people do want to associate a face with it. People do need someone to step up and make them care about things. I am coming around to the idea that I might have to become more personally and publicly involved in spreading this message. I am also fairly private. I don't really care about people knowing who I am, or following me personally. If people care about my mission, and think things need to change, that's all I really care about. Also, as you can tell from how direct and blunt I am, I can make enemies of the people and companies that I call out for putting people at risk by not properly testing their products. I have had countless death threats sent to me, my family, and my team. People have said in private chats on here that they wanted to come to my house and put a crowbar through my rib cage. That's a direct quote, by the way. So maintaining a bit of distance between my online handle and the real person behind it has been beneficial. I might have to let up on that a bit, though. I am still not settled on what I will do, but I know I will be doing a better job of trying to spread this message to people. Perhaps one day I might feel it is time enough to step forward and spread this message in person in interviews and such.

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