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Comment · Wed, December 9, 2020 · ND Owner

⚠️ NEW PRODUCT ALERT | High Potency Milk Thistle Capsules | 200mg of Silymarins from Silybum marianum ⚠️

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NootropicsDepotCom · 32 points

What they were answering

iwantmyownname · 3 points

Yea I was going to edit my comment with a very brief explanation of this but I knew you would of commented to the same thing anyway, so I left it and plus we all like reading the long posts you give generally especially when it's a rant ;)

Just saying basically you tested a lot of competing products and they all failed for labels claims so this is indeed the most potent on the market

Are you able to list it on the product page as you've done before with others products like competitor A, B, C etc?

u/MisterYouAreSoDumb · ND Owner

Yeah, we might list them like that on our lab page. We have a section for competitive analysis that we are going to build out. Right now it just has the tongkat ali results.

https://nootropicsdepot.com/in-house-analytical-laboratory/

It's a tab on towards the right side.

NOW is starting to do this, too. They are listing the actual company names on their site.

https://www.nowfoods.com/now/nowledge/now-tests-other-brands-phosphatidyl-serine-finds-serious-issues

The ironic thing is that they are throwing stones while living in glass houses... I like that they are highlighting the issue and attempting to get Amazon to address it. However, when you are selling milk thistle that doesn't meet label claims, it's a bad look to then start calling others out for phosphatidylserine. Also, they really pushed Amazon on this new project.

https://www.nutraingredients-usa.com/Article/2020/12/04/Amazon-issues-sweeping-quality-specs-for-supplements-sold-on-its-site

On its face it is good. However, Amazon has fucked it up like always. They just removed our lion's mane 8:1 yesterday, and said we needed to provide them testing documentation for them to allow it back up. They didn't remove anyone else's fucking lion's mane, though!!! Only ours! So now our rankings are going to be fucked because they singled us out for a program that they gave us no warning on. So we had to scramble all yesterday to get them the documentation in the formatting they wanted it in; which doesn't even make sense, by the way. This was all pushed by NOW, and they want everyone to have assay proof of their label claims by an ISO certified lab. However, they don't understand what that means. There are no ISO certified labs for lion's mane assay... Also, NOW's lab is NOT ISO CERTIFIED EITHER!!! I am perfectly fine with Amazon implementing a program like this, IF THEY APPLY IT EVENLY! If you are going to pull lion's mane in lieu of testing results, pull ALL the lion's mane. They fucking left Toniiq's up, and that's completely fake. It's not even fucking lion's mane, much less assayed properly. However, they pull our fucking lion's mane and leave theirs up... I seriously don't understand why we are always targeted for shit, while completely fake scam brands are left alone! Also, if you are going to change your policies, give people some fucking heads up first! Amazon didn't even contact us. We saw that Nutraingredients article go up, and then manually had to go look at our back end to see they had removed our lion's mane! I seriously fucking HATE Amazon! Just the absolute worst platform in the entire world. NOW's shit is still up, though. Ohh, I wonder why... They are not ISO certified, so why has Amazon not removed their shit? Ohh, could it be that they are part of the Amazon Vendor Program? That's where Amazon buys your product, stocks it themselves, and sells it for their own profit. It's totally different than us selling on Amazon, or even having our stuff in FBA. We carry the inventory cost on Amazon, but brands in the Amazon Vendor Program sell in wholesale to Amazon, then Amazon sells it to customers. Amazon wouldn't remove one of the brands it is selling and making money on, even if it doesn't meet their new rules.

I am seriously getting fucking pissed off by all this! It feels like we are always the ones that get targeted and screwed, but we are one of the only ones trying to do the right thing. Even massive brands are selling improperly tested and mislabeled shit! We do so much work ensuring things are done properly. We don't pay for reviews or play the shady backlink games. We are open and honest in everything we do. However, it's like a battle every day! I don't even get one week where I can just chill and de-stress. I am always having to fight something new! So we hunker down and get past it, then get broadsided by something new the next week...

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