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Comment · Wed, September 23, 2020 · ND Owner

[Request] There is a very powerful skin supplement called Nicadan - would ND be interested in making a "generic"?

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DeathByThousandCats · 3 points

Is it even legal? I mean yeah, we’ve seen what the “market” tongkat ali and Rhodiola rosea really are, but this one’s being sold by a doctor.

Edit: If you are indeed right, then my guess (from what OP described) has to be a super strong cortisol analogue. Dangerous.

u/MisterYouAreSoDumb · ND Owner

LOL, legal. You know how many companies are violating the law every single day? I could literally keep myself busy for a decade suing supplement companies out there. We have a fleshed out roadmap to do it, actually. We have been sued many times now, and during those lawsuits we have learned a lot about the law in relation to the industry. I could use that knowledge to literally make a business out of suing almost every single supplement company out there. Pick a company... any company. I guarantee you I could find sometime to sue them over for violations of FDA or FTC guidelines. We have had some bad days fighting shit like this now, but we have learned a lot in the process. The law is fucking scary when you get into it. Everyone out there is a target. They just don't know it yet.

Regarding doctors being any different, they are just as bad as everyone else. They don't know shit about pharmacology. Most doctors pushing shit like this have zero clue what they are talking about on a pharmacological level, much less analytical chemistry or quality control. You can try it yourself. Go to any doctor and start asking about the receptor systems the drugs they are prescribing bind to. Ask them about how the various isomers/enantiomers of the drugs change their affinities or pharmacokinetics. They will look at you like you are insane. I have tried it on countless doctors, genuinely asking for shit I was dealing with. I only found ONE doctor my entire life that knew what I was talking about, and was willing to sit with me and discuss it. Everyone else is going through the motions and checking boxes. They have no idea how things are working. No idea. To then ask them about how things are tested in the lab, and how they know what they are selling is properly tested and pure? LOL. Just look how doctors were talked into prescribing opioids more and more by attractive women drug reps for Gilead. There is a Netflix documentary on it. It's nuts! These moron doctors just trusted the lies the drug reps were telling them, then fucked their patients lives because they had no actual clue about pharmacology...

Anyway, I could rant for days about our broken system. Sure, putting things in a product, but not listing them on the label, is illegal. However, you would have to actually be held accountable for that to matter. Companies are not even properly testing their own products. Who is going to test this random supplement, then either sue them or inform the FDA? Again, I am speculating here. I don't know for sure this product is hiding something else in there. It's just the price, the reported effects, and the claimed ingredients don't match up.

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