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Comment · Sat, August 1, 2020 · ND Owner

Shoden Ashwagandha

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Berengersbottle · 37 points

I noticed y’all have a new ashwagandha and it looks exciting. For context, I’ve been taking ksm 66 for the better part of two years. It has phenomenal stress-reducing effects.

Would shoden be better? Has anybody on here given it a shot? There’s not a lot of info on this extract.

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Aldarund · 3 points

1) why dosage is 120mg 1-2 times daily if take count for % - it's 840-1680 of 5% extract like ksm more than twice more, and even more if we compare to sensoril. So what the reasoning for this dosage?
2) what withanolides composition this extract have?

PS when berberine ? :) I see its put on site with new content but still not available to buy. And when "next week" ali tablets ? :))

u/MisterYouAreSoDumb · ND Owner

1) Because they are different extracts. There are over 40 withanolides in ashwagandha. KSM-66 is standardized to different ones than Shoden. So you can't just compare them like-for-like. Ashwagandha is a very complex botanical. You can make one extract feel completely different than another just by the withanolide profile. The reasoning for the dosage is the efficacy studies Shoden has done. That's the dose that they came to as a standard in their studies.

2) It's a complex profile. I will have to get the chromatogram when I am at the office. It is way more than the standard 8 on the USP monograph.

Berberine is almost ready! I had to whip the team to get tongkat out. That was my main priority. Berberine is close. I can't give exact dates. Lots of shit has to happen for things to get approved, in process, then on the shelf.

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