Comment · Sat, April 2, 2022 · ND Owner
Cistance/Tongkat equivalent for women?
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Hormesis · 11 points
Curious if any of you have tried, or know of, compounds that are similar to cistanche and tongkat that women can take for improved strength, endurance, fat-loss, etc.
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u/MisterYouAreSoDumb · ND Owner
That would be cistanche and tongkat! LOL. No, seriously. They are good for women, too. /u/NootropicsDepotGuru is going to talk about that on our podcast coming out on Tuesday. She started taking tongkat and is loving the effects. We have had multiple women in the office start with tongkat and cistanche with good effects.
Many people incorrectly assume that testosterone is for men and estrogen is for women, but both sexes need both. Too low of estrogen in men can cause tons of bad effects. Too low of testosterone in women can as well. Also, gynecomastia is not really caused by estrogen, either. It's caused by prolactin increases that generally coincide with increases in estrogen, but it is not the estrogen itself that is the issue. Block the prolactin and you get the benefits without the side effects. This is what the combo of tongkat, cistanche, apigenin, and ashwagandha will do. I think people are going to really like this podcast on Tuesday. We are going to go into a lot of interesting detail on the science.