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Comment · Mon, August 3, 2020 · ND Owner

Shoden Ashwagandha

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Berengersbottle · 37 points

I noticed y’all have a new ashwagandha and it looks exciting. For context, I’ve been taking ksm 66 for the better part of two years. It has phenomenal stress-reducing effects.

Would shoden be better? Has anybody on here given it a shot? There’s not a lot of info on this extract.

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varvela · 3 points

Just from a business perspective, why not just state this as the case and sell that batch at a discount rather than grinding them up and starting over?

Some people wouldn’t mind some variability in dose to get a discount, so could be a win-win for both sides.

u/MisterYouAreSoDumb · ND Owner

Either something meets our specs or it doesn't. If I was okay selling "good enough" we wouldn't be here right now. You buy from one of my companies because you know I don't just accept good enough and move on. If something is not perfectly in spec, I reject and redo. I am a perfectionist. I can't just let things go. If I decide something needs to be a certain way, and the production process does not result in exact that, we fix the production process. We don't just change our standards because it is more convenient for us. We have had to redo so many things over the years like this. This is not new. It happens all the time. I have to make hard decisions that cost us money all the time. However, because I always do that, people trust us to a level they don't anyone else. We have the reputation we do precisely because I make these difficult business decisions about accuracy and quality.

From a more practical sense, you don't want dosing variability because then it makes it harder to assess your effects. If one dose is 100mg and another is 150mg, how can you accurately assess how well you are responding to a product? Furthermore, if I am being critical of other vendors for approving things because they are easier from a business perspective, I better be damn sure I am also not doing those things. Then to top it off, I have to justify every action to a potential FDA inspector. If we just randomly approve one batch outside our spec because it is easier from a business perspective, then we open ourselves up to regulatory enforcement. Accuracy, consistency, analytical validity, and openness are the things that make ND what it is.

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