Comment · Fri, November 10, 2017 · Ceretropic & Nootropics Depot
Paul Stamets mycologist on JRE
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ivres1 · 126 points
Really interesting podcast here with Paul Stamets Mycologist, it covers really interesting topics like the neurogenesis effect of psilocybin, the benefits of lion mane, the untap potential of mushroom to help numerous illness. I really was blow away by everything he said, this guy claim that a mushroom trip cured is stutter, which by itself is really interesting nootropic wise.
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Texoccer · 4 points
You should definitely believe the person selling you something instead. Go look up the research, and you find the mushrooms used were not grown on mycelium.
u/MisterYouAreSoDumb · Ceretropic & Nootropics Depot
Remember, it's mycelium on grain that is the issue, not the mycelium itself. The mycelium of a mushroom is just a part of the life cycle, and there are unique ingredients in it. However, it should not be called a mushroom, as it has not fully formed into a mushroom yet. The latest FDA draft guidance actually goes as far as saying a product is misbranded if it uses mycelium and calls itself a mushroom. However, I do think there are some unique beneficial compounds in mycelium that need investigating. The issue is that when you grow a shitty mycelium on grain product, you are getting mostly starch. That's because they grind the grain up, usually rice, and call that whole product a mushroom. Then they only standardize to polysaccharides, and not beta d-glucans. So the numbers are inflated, since starch is a polysaccharide. You're basically getting ground up rice with some mycelium. It's total bullshit. You can do cultured mycelium extracts, like the CS4 product, to get the mycelium without the ground up rice. It's just a lot cheaper to make a mycelium on grain product.
USP recently did a study on Reishi products, and the results are pretty alarming. Only 5 of the 19 products tested were in accordance with their labels. Only 8 of the 19 even had triterpenoids at all!
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