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Comment · Wed, April 15, 2015 · Ceretropic

Phenylethylidenehydrazine Update?

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HotFreshmanGirl · 10 points

Hi all. I was wondering if anyone had an update on the phenylethylidenehydrazine synthesis?

I would also like to bring attention to a few novel compounds, that may be interesting to further research for anxiolytic and or depression purposes: Eptapirone, Flesinoxan, Aloradine.

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theskepticalidealist · 2 points

Ahh yes, but amphetamines are illegal whereas phenylethylamine can be sold for human consumption in supplement form in the open. ;P

It is so cheap too!!

Shulgin also said, and I'm paraphrasing what i've seen others say about what they say Shulgin said, that phenylethylamine is worthless as it is. But from what i gather he seemed more interested in very strong noticeable effects rather than more subtle nootropic effects.

So, is there not a way to modify phenylethylamine so that it might make it better as a nootropic/cognitive enhancer drug (like cross the BBB easier without having to use potentiators) while also not crossing that line into it being an amphetamine?

u/MisterYouAreSoDumb · Ceretropic

Amphetamine is very close to phenylethylamine. Any modifications to prevent the breakdown of it by MAOI are going to make that compound a structural analog to a schedule 2 substance, which the DEA does not take too kindly to. The closest you can get would be N-Methylphenylethylamine, and even it is broken down by MAO-B pretty rapidly. I thought about getting some NMPEA a while back, just to try it. It's in a few preworkout supplements. There is a lot of sketchy shit in many of those preworkout supplements.

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