Comment · Fri, August 16, 2013 · Ceretropic
Nefiracetam & Coluracetam
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Seneframin · 20 points
Those two racetams are the only ones that are rarely discussed on this sub reddit. I would really like some info about them, along with a reason as to why those two racetams are not so used by people ?
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alan2102 · 1 points
Don't cite Wikipedia. I can go on there right now and change that paragraph to say nefiracetam turns you into a monkey.
Thanks for your note. I agree that everything should be approached cautiously.
Regarding wikipedia: yes, you could change that paragraph to say something ridiculous. And it would probably last for about 24 hours, before it got reverted. I have mixed feelings about wikipedia, but mostly positive. It is not the last word about anything, to be sure, but it is a great source of material for further study. And I was certainly not inserting a snippet from wikipedia AS the last word, mind you. Just a reminder that the issues are perhaps less cut and dried than they were being presented.
BY ALL MEANS you should continue to be cautious with your dosages.
Just one other point: the matter of hepatic inactivation of testosterone is a much different issue, and in my view a much less concerning one. Testicular toxicity is a whole 'nother ballgame and much more alarming. I cannot link you to a study showing humans absolutely and positively do not have this issue. I can only point you to the literature in which N has been used without noting any such effect -- for what that is worth. The fact that no toxicity was seen in monkeys is somewhat reassuring; we're a lot closer to monkeys than we are to dogs or rats.
u/MisterYouAreSoDumb · Ceretropic
Agreed. That is why I still purchased and tested nefiracetam. However, the kidney pain I got while on it was concerning. I've tested it 3 times, and each time the pain came back. If it's a psychosomatic reaction, then it's a very consistent one.