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Comment · Fri, March 8, 2013 · Ceretropic

Nootropic Side-effects and trying to determine what the issue is.

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lakattack0221 · 5 points

SO basically, there's a lot of information out there, and it's hard to consolidate it into what exactly is going on when you take ractams and choline.

For example - I just started taking Oxi-tam(750mg) and Choline Bitarate (1g), and I noticed within about 2 hours, I had a heavy fog, a feeling of depression in my body, and a generally bad feeling.

So I'm wondering - are there any ways, aside from pure experimentation, to at least get an idea what causes these things? For example - does too much choline make you feel drowsy? Does too much piractam without choline give you a mental fog?

Also, I wanted to just thank the people on this thread. I love the community that's formed here.

EDIT: This is currently my stack:

Piracetam (2g/twice daily)

Aniracetam (750mg/twice daily)

Oxiracetam (750mg/twice daily)

ALCAR (250mg/twice daily)

L-Theanine (200mg/daily)

B-Complex (daily)

Fish Oil (2g/daily)

TMG (500mg/twice daily)

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lakattack0221 · 1 points

Aside from the kickoff dose above, where I used 1000g Choline Biterate, I have eliminated it since then until this morning when I actually started to feel brain fog.

Around last night I started feeling the full effects of a synergistic stack. This morning I felt an intense tension headache which I assumed was from the lack of choline and bumping up -RACETAM dosages. I took a tiny amount of choline and it seems to be going away. Like I said, I'm leary of that horrible lethargic feeling, and will avoid it at all costs :-X

u/MisterYouAreSoDumb · Ceretropic

Yes, the tension headache is low choline. You seem like a person that is going to need to find that sweet spot with the choline dose. I am lucky. I just take no choline and I am fine. I've had to take it twice. That was when I took 500mg oxiracetam, 1,600mg piracetam, 750mg aniracetam, 400mg pramiracetam, and 10mg noopept together.

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