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Comment · Thu, April 11, 2013 · Ceretropic

Dietary EGCG and Choline

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ComplainyGuy · 2 points

A. I bought green tea bags, and have been ripping them open and drinking the leaves with my 5-htp.
1. Does anybody -know- if bags are lower in EGCG than loose leaves? I couldn't find loose leaves in my super market.
2. Is it fair to say it's safe to eat the leaves from a bag directly like that?

B. How many eggs could I eat until I can afford to order a choline source? I do love eggs.
Does cooking the eggs reduce the choline content?

None of my searching online would provide any direct answers to the questions. Just generic responses from 'fad' websites about "get enough EGCG from green tea!"

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ComplainyGuy · 1 points

I'v had a few hours of looking in to it now but i'm having trouble finding sources that explain it in 'nicer' terms that I can understand. I don't know much of the neuroscience functionality and only basic terms like receptor names.

Do you have any recommendation on where I can read "Explain it like i'm 10", or do you have knowledge of this yourself to recommend which of the racetams might be "worth" it.
I'll be honest, my main concern is effectiveness for cost. I don't want to get second best when I could try to find a down low way of getting piracetam.

u/MisterYouAreSoDumb · Ceretropic

I'll copy what I wrote on another post so you can choose which ones to read. There are a few in there about pramiracetam.

Piracetam affects membrane fluidity in the frontal cortex, the hippocampus, and the striatum. It also sensitizes NMDA receptors in the hippocampus

Piracetam's effects on the NMDA receptors.

Piracetam stimulates the metabolic glucose pathway.

Changes in the brain biogenic monoamines of rats, induced by piracetam and aniracetam.

Piracetam defines a new binding site for allosteric modulators of the AMPA receptors.

Modulation of AMPA receptors and the action of nootropic drugs.

Aniracetam enhances synaptic excitation by modulating AMPA receptors.

Receptor changes and LTP caused by administration of aniracetam.

Allosteric modulation of AMPA receptors by aniracetam.

Allosteric potentiation of quisqualate receptors by a nootropic drug aniracetam.

Modulation of the time course of fast EPSCs and glutamate channel kinetics by aniracetam.

Aniracetam reduces glutamate receptor desensitization and slows the decay of fast excitatory synaptic currents in the hippocampus.

Oxiracetam prevents the hippocampal cholinergic hypofunction induced by the NMDA receptor blocker AP7

Interactions between oxiracetam, aniracetam and scopolamine on behavior and brain acetylcholine

Putative cognition enhancers reverse kynurenic acid antagonism at hippocampal NMDA receptors

Effect of the nootropic drug oxiracetam on field potentials of rat hippocampal slices

Enhancement of hippocampally-mediated learning and protein kinase C activity by oxiracetam in learning-impaired DBA/2 mice

The role of non-NMDA glutamate receptors in the EEG effects of chronic administration of noopept GVS-111 in awake rats

The effect of the synthetic neuroprotective dipeptide noopept on glutamate release from rat brain cortex slices

Anti-inflammatory properties of noopept

Noopept stimulates the expression of NGF and BDNF in rat hippocampus

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Here are studies just in healthy humans

Pharmacodynamics of piracetam and piracetam-like drugs.

EEG of healthy individuals after piracetam.

Activation of ERP segments strongly correlated to cognitive functions in healthy subjects after using piracetam.

Piracetam prevents hypoxia in healthy individuals.

Piracetam effects on blood flow and vasodilation in normal individuals.

Piracetam attenuated decreases in vigilance in healthy individuals.

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Aniracetam prevents hypoxia in healthy individuals

Multiple dose aniracetam plasma pharmacodynamics in healthy volunteers.

Single dose pharmacodynamics in healthy Chinese males.

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Pharmacokinetics of oxiracetam following intravenous and oral administration in healthy volunteers.

Acute doses of oxiracetam in scolpamine induced amnesia in healthy individuals.

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Pramiracetam's effects on scolpamine induced amnesia in healthy volunteers.

Pharmacokinetics of pramiracetam in healthy volunteers.

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Meteoadaptogenic properties of peptide (noopept) drugs in healthy volunteers.

Neuroprotective function of noopept.

Noopept prevents oxidative damage in normal individuals.

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