Comment · Thu, June 13, 2024 · Natrium Health & Nootropics Depot
ConsumerLab vs. Nootropics Depot
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daylightcrashes · 0 points
Uh-oh, Nootropics Depot is threatening to sue ConsumerLab.
ConsumerLab testing discovered that Nootropics Depot Shoden Ashwagandha doesn’t have the claimed amount of Withanolides in it. ConsumerLab isn’t backing down. Stay tuned…
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ExoticCard · 5 points
Honestly the ND owner is making a good case and we should analyze their response.
The bottle says 35% percent Withanolides.
It didn't say "35% percent of the 8 specific Withanolides Consumer Labs tests out of the total 46 different Withanolides"
The real 2 questions are:
Why did Consumer Labs choose those 8 Withanolides in particular?
I need to look at the research to determine whether those other Withanolides do something or were they just pumping up the overall label % by including what is commonly considered and backed by evidence non-active Withanolides. Seeing levels of all 46 out of 46 different Withanolide measurements for all the brands they tested would be nice too. I won't rule out the possibility that Consumer Labs chose those 8 out of 46 Withanolides to screw over ND, especially considering ND still ranked high in value.
Can another third party lab use those standards to come to the same result?
I personally predict ND's measurements are valid and it does contain the 35% of all Withanolides. If it came out that they did not.... it would be a lie from a trusted company. Once again, with ND having a sister testing company, I have faith their numbers are accurate. Also, it's not like they make Shoden in-house. It's patented by a different company that they buy from and then test themselves. It's not ND's decision to pick and choose Withanolides, but r…
u/MisterYouAreSoDumb · Natrium Health & Nootropics Depot
Our product basically tied for the most withanolides in Consumer Labs' testing...
Withanolides Per Capsule (Via USP Method)
* Herb Pharm Liquid: 24mg
* Nootropics Depot Shoden: 23.5mg
* Nature's Way: 21mg
* NOW Foods: 11.5mg
* Feel Good Organic Superfoods Ashwagandha Powder: 3.8mg
* Himalaya: 3mg
* Gaia: 2.8mg
* Youtheory: 2.5mg
* Organic India: 2mg
* Life Extension: 1.5mg
* Pure Encapsulations: 1.3mg
* Root2: 1.2mg
* Swanson: 0.88mg
We also ran that batch through the lab again today, and found 72mg total withanolides, well over our claim of 42mg. We have a second ISO lab getting us results on that batch tomorrow as well. I also have every single one of those products on the way to us now, and I will run them all through real proper ashwagandha methods, and post the results for everyone. Don't worry, I won't let this one go. I will fight as long and hard as I have to on this issue.