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Comment · Tue, June 11, 2024 · ND Owner

Yall wanna explain dis 😂

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bruhman123534t6 · 0 points

https://www.consumerlab.com/reviews/ashwagandha-supplements/ashwagandha/?anchor=update&j=3377393&sfmc_sub=352642909&l=529_HTML&u=38074252&mid=7276525&jb=17008&utm_medium=email&utm_source=exacttarget&utm_campaign=newsletter&utm_term=&utm_content=flosser_member_de_send#update

“We received a letter from an attorney representing Nootropics Depot, which sells the Nootropics Depot Shoden product that was Not Approved in this Review as we found only 23.5 mg of the 42 mg of withanolides that we expected based on its label. The letter claims that "the testing method you employed... was materially deficient, was not designed or intended to result in a fair and complete analysis of the withanolide glycosides in the Nootropics Depot Shoden... and resulted in a material understatement of the withanolide glycosides..." The letter demands that we retract our information about the product and cease publication of this Review, and, essentially, threatens legal action if we do not comply. We have no reason to believe that the information that we published about Nootropics Depot Shoden is incorrect and, therefore, do not intend to retract our information about it or delete this Review. We are alwa…

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u/MisterYouAreSoDumb · ND Owner

LOL, what explanation do you want? I am doing exactly what I said I would do on the below posts.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Supplements/comments/1czvlqn/consumer_labs_latest_results_for_ashwagandha_are/

https://www.reddit.com/r/NootropicsDepot/comments/1czoe7l/consumerlabs_ashwagandha_report_ksm_and_shoden/

This response from Consumer Lab means we go to lawsuits, I guess. That's fine with me. We will let the courts settle it, and I won't just limit it to flawed ashwagandha testing. Many of their other rounds of testing are completely flawed, like lion's mane. After we get discovery, all will see the facts of what Consumer Lab really is. All our data is solid, so I have no worry there.

I gave time for NutriScience and Arjuna, the people that make Shoden, to reach out to Consumer Lab in a cordial and productive fashion. Consumer Lab completely ignored their attempts to contact them. I was hoping Consumer Lab would simply work with the manufacturers to correct the testing methodology issues. However, they just ghosted them, so legal action was the only next step, as I said I would do when this first came up. Two weeks is more than enough time to give before taking the next step. I had hoped we could solve this without legal action, but I guess Consumer Lab is not interested in that. Whatever... the truth will come out, I assure you that.

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