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Comment · Tue, June 11, 2024 · ND Owner

Yall wanna explain dis 😂

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bruhman123534t6 · 0 points

https://www.consumerlab.com/reviews/ashwagandha-supplements/ashwagandha/?anchor=update&j=3377393&sfmc_sub=352642909&l=529_HTML&u=38074252&mid=7276525&jb=17008&utm_medium=email&utm_source=exacttarget&utm_campaign=newsletter&utm_term=&utm_content=flosser_member_de_send#update

“We received a letter from an attorney representing Nootropics Depot, which sells the Nootropics Depot Shoden product that was Not Approved in this Review as we found only 23.5 mg of the 42 mg of withanolides that we expected based on its label. The letter claims that "the testing method you employed... was materially deficient, was not designed or intended to result in a fair and complete analysis of the withanolide glycosides in the Nootropics Depot Shoden... and resulted in a material understatement of the withanolide glycosides..." The letter demands that we retract our information about the product and cease publication of this Review, and, essentially, threatens legal action if we do not comply. We have no reason to believe that the information that we published about Nootropics Depot Shoden is incorrect and, therefore, do not intend to retract our information about it or delete this Review. We are alwa…

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Breal3030 · 25 points

This drama is wild, and I can't believe Consumer Labs is still in business. I really thought they would die out a long time ago.

They've had so many issues throughout the years, where they've published shoddy information/testing/ranking methodologies.

I swear it's been close to 10 years, but they had a huge protein powder issue, a magnesium issue, and a reliance on California Prop 65 arsenic testing to try and differentiate products in their "rankings" that otherwise tested the same. For levels of arsenic that were lower in foods we eat every day, like rice.

Even as a non expert and not even in the field I remember quickly realizing they have no idea what they are doing or were being disingenuous to sell their product.

All of that to say: sorry you're going through this and the best of luck.

u/MisterYouAreSoDumb · ND Owner

Most brands are afraid of lawsuits, because they don't want people looking at their other products, for fear other issues come out. We do so much testing and verification, I really don't care if everyone goes and tests all our products. Have at it! We can stand on the facts and data. We have nothing to hide. Other brands probably just want to quietly have the situation go away. This makes them hesitant to take further action. You all here know I am no stranger to controversy. Plus, I am used to lawsuits and other legal action now. It's been my life for many years, so it's just another day. I don't like it, as I am sure nobody does. However, I am used to it; so if defending our reputation requires it, that's what we will do.

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